Every game

[Mattee]

I feel like any game that comes out now gets trashed on for being "woke"

It's like a formula now. Can't people just enjoy games anymore? The regular game still exists.

[Athena]

I feel like any game that comes out is woke trash.

It's like a formula now. Can't we just enjoy eyecandy anymore? Mirrors still exist for your reality checks.

[bunny de fluff]

What's wrong for calling it as I see it?

[Maddog]

What I don't understand is the original SH2 looks great even now, why are they remaking it? Do they not have the creative drive to make a new Silent Hill?

(Yet they have the drive to mess up perfectly good games )

[srfrogg23]

Why can't developers just make faithful recreations of classic games without updating them for the mythical "modern audience"?

Everyone would have been happy with a remake where the characters all looked and sounded like higher fidelity versions of their original versions. Instead Blooper Team decided to make Angela trans and Maria an upper middle class boxwine soccer mom in their crappy fan fiction version of SH2. Who knows how many other things they are doing that completely miss the point of the original story?

[Mögbär]

They just released a new Silent Hill game, for free no less, and had anounced two other completely new Silent Hill games along with the remake. (I obmit Silent Hill Ascension here because it is very, very bad, but it was also a new Silent Hill ... well, "game-ish thing" with cutscenes.)

And why the remake? Well, SH2 is the most popular game in the franchise, it probably seemed like the obvious choice for good sale numbers.

Originally posted by Mattee:

I feel like any game that comes out now gets trashed on for being "woke"

It's like a formula now. Can't people just enjoy games anymore? The regular game still exists.

If they would at least complain about actual "woke" content. Calling Angela fat and ugly is such a weird grasping at straws it pretty much means there isn't anything to be angry about, so let's make something up.

[NTense]

For me personally I only played SH1 on PS1 so I was looking forward to a faithful recreation of SH2 but they failed to recreate the spooky environment and changed the characters too much so I know it's not going to be worth playing if they're willing to mess with core elements of the story like that just to "play it safe" so not to offend anyone.

[Mattee]

Originally posted by Weebhunter:

What I don't understand is the original SH2 looks great even now, why are they remaking it? Do they not have the creative drive to make a new Silent Hill?

(Yet they have the drive to mess up perfectly good games :sleepyjill: )

Here's the thing but: the original game isn't going anywhere. Are they really messing something up?

[Mattee]

Originally posted by bunny de fluff:

What's wrong for calling it as I see it?

Is it as you see it or how the trend sees it?

[Mattee]

Originally posted by srfrogg23:

Why can't developers just make faithful recreations of classic games without updating them for the mythical "modern audience"?

Everyone would have been happy with a remake where the characters all looked and sounded like higher fidelity versions of their original versions. Instead Blooper Team decided to make Angela trans and Maria an upper middle class boxwine soccer mom in their crappy fan fiction version of SH2. Who knows how many other things they are doing that completely miss the point of the original story?

What do you think they mean when they say modern audiences? Also the game is not out yet. If the game is bad then it's bad, but how can you tell it's bad from the trailers? Because they got different actors to play the characters?

I think you're making a lot of assumptions based off of what trends tell you they think and you're jumping on this bandwagon of hate. I'm not saying it's entirely your fault but let's at least wait for the game to come out before we throw it in the bin hey?

[srfrogg23]

Originally posted by Mattee:

Originally posted by srfrogg23:

Why can't developers just make faithful recreations of classic games without updating them for the mythical "modern audience"?

Everyone would have been happy with a remake where the characters all looked and sounded like higher fidelity versions of their original versions. Instead Blooper Team decided to make Angela trans and Maria an upper middle class boxwine soccer mom in their crappy fan fiction version of SH2. Who knows how many other things they are doing that completely miss the point of the original story?

What do you think they mean when they say modern audiences? Also the game is not out yet. If the game is bad then it's bad, but how can you tell it's bad from the trailers? Because they got different actors to play the characters?

I think you're making a lot of assumptions based off of what trends tell you they think and you're jumping on this bandwagon of hate. I'm not saying it's entirely your fault but let's at least wait for the game to come out before we throw it in the bin hey?

Nah. This has become very formulaic by this point. When people remake something for modern audiences, it's usually done by people who don't care about or appreciate the original. They just want that ESG money from Blackrock and they're using recognizable brand names to get it.

[Scriptimus]

Originally posted by srfrogg23:

Originally posted by Mattee:

What do you think they mean when they say modern audiences? Also the game is not out yet. If the game is bad then it's bad, but how can you tell it's bad from the trailers? Because they got different actors to play the characters?

I think you're making a lot of assumptions based off of what trends tell you they think and you're jumping on this bandwagon of hate. I'm not saying it's entirely your fault but let's at least wait for the game to come out before we throw it in the bin hey?

Nah. This has become very formulaic by this point. When people remake something for modern audiences, it's usually done by people who don't care about or appreciate the original. They just want that ESG money from Blackrock and they're using recognizable brand names to get it.

What remakes are you referring to?

[turn heel]

Originally posted by Mattee:

Originally posted by Weebhunter:

What I don't understand is the original SH2 looks great even now, why are they remaking it? Do they not have the creative drive to make a new Silent Hill?

(Yet they have the drive to mess up perfectly good games :sleepyjill: )

Here's the thing but: the original game isn't going anywhere. Are they really messing something up?

Here's the thing butte: we've spoken about this in depth. There is no official way to purchase Silent Hill 2, nor has there been for 15 years. You can get Enhanced Edition, which this game could only dream of being, but -officially- Silent Hill 2 is copyright protected abandonware, and this release is in fact sullying the legacy for new fans who aren't privy to the ways to play the real thing, or willing to dish out a hundo on a ps2 or Xbox game. There you go. Enjoy the slop.

[Mattee]

Originally posted by turn heel:

Originally posted by Mattee:

Here's the thing but: the original game isn't going anywhere. Are they really messing something up?

Here's the thing butte: we've spoken about this in depth. There is no official way to purchase Silent Hill 2, nor has there been for 15 years. You can get Enhanced Edition, which this game could only dream of being, but -officially- Silent Hill 2 is copyright protected abandonware, and this release is in fact sullying the legacy for new fans who aren't privy to the ways to play the real thing, or willing to dish out a hundo on a ps2 or Xbox game. There you go. Enjoy the slop.

That's a fair point, and I agree. I think you should be able to buy any game that has ever been released within reason. But do we need to use that as our ammo to attack this new remake of it? I get that people are angry, but to make how attractive a character like Angela looks be the crux of why the game is terrible is just... honestly it's just stupid.

There's a spectrum here; one end of it you have the people who deliberately alter games to add diversity and take out sexual references and whatever else they need to do, they try to adapt it to stop offending people. Then on the other side you have people who label anything as 'woke' and bash literally anything so long as the thing doesn't fit into their own vision of how it should be. Both ends are stupid.

It's fine to be mad at Konami and whoever else for not allowing the purchase of these old games we love. It's another thing entirely to attack and actor or actress because you personally think they're ugly.

[Mattee]

Originally posted by srfrogg23:

Originally posted by Mattee:

What do you think they mean when they say modern audiences? Also the game is not out yet. If the game is bad then it's bad, but how can you tell it's bad from the trailers? Because they got different actors to play the characters?

I think you're making a lot of assumptions based off of what trends tell you they think and you're jumping on this bandwagon of hate. I'm not saying it's entirely your fault but let's at least wait for the game to come out before we throw it in the bin hey?

Nah. This has become very formulaic by this point. When people remake something for modern audiences, it's usually done by people who don't care about or appreciate the original. They just want that ESG money from Blackrock and they're using recognizable brand names to get it.

So you use the words modern audiences despite saying it's mythical and made up?

[srfrogg23]

Originally posted by Mattee:

Originally posted by srfrogg23:

Nah. This has become very formulaic by this point. When people remake something for modern audiences, it's usually done by people who don't care about or appreciate the original. They just want that ESG money from Blackrock and they're using recognizable brand names to get it.

So you use the words modern audiences despite saying it's mythical and made up?

There's a specific set of attributes associated with the "modern audience" that don't exist with the actual audience, like the belief that modern audiences are too emotionally fragile to see attractive video game characters, so they need to be made unattractive. A belief that under represented groups appreciate retconning characters for the sake of representation, etc.

It all stems from things like intersectional femenism and critical race theory that have made their way into the entertainment industry through DEI consulting firms.