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What makes the second even worse is that it's an arena PvP game, not a dungeon crawler. Meaning not only is it online reliant, it's not even a game like C9.
Devil May Cry for instance has the action based combat you're looking for. But it doesn't have random loot and it's not really a dungeon crawler.
These are the ones that reluctantly keep dragging me back to Korean F2P publishers. At least Webzen doesn't seem to be a horrible steaming pile of crap like some of them. I find the ones to really avoid are the ones with a lot of games, that they are only the publisher for. Webzen has only a handful, and they apparently both publish and develop them. They're still mainly a Korean company, but seems like they're about as good as it's going to get for the foreseeable future.
At this point I think I'll mess around with C9 for a while yet, but will likely quit eventually. In the end I think I'll do a split focus type thing and stick with single player games, and single player games that also offer multi-player as I'm more of a soloist anyhow. Then get my action fix from playing games like Devil May Cry and so forth. For long epic RPGs I'll play things like games from The Elder Scrolls series and such. There's some that mix the two to some degree, and more like that should come along, but I think that this direction would be best for me.
Thanks though, and if anyone else knows of games that blend the two more, rhyme them off.
More games like this are console games and Japanese/Korean/Chinese programers don't like to create them on PC, also don't know any of you want on PC (Dungeon, Craft, Action, H&S, Action togather), so me looking games like this too.
Hope helped.
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Mitsurugi Kamui Hikae I knew of, and up voted in their Greenlight bid, it like X-Blades is an arena hack and slash, go in a big room, waves of mobs spawn, you start killing. Blades of Time is a type of sequel to X-Blades, I own it already.
Those games are all more straight hack and slash, they can have some RPG like elements, but aren't quite the same as C9. As I mentioned in an earlier post there's Dragon's Crown, but now more recently there's Ragnarok Odyssey, both are now, or soon will be available on both the PS3, and PS Vita. Ragnarok Odyssey looks rather C9 like game play wise, with a bit of online multiplayer along with offline single player, and it's published by XSeed, I really like XSeed, of course as they publish the Ys games, so I'm a tad biased.