How does this compare to Classified France 44?

[petebeadle]

As it says on the tin. I'd appreciate people's thoughts.

[GHOST of Meridia]

I'm only 6 missions in so take this for what its worth..
(I'm assuming you played Classified France: CF44)
The missions so far are very similar ((as your a multinational resistance)
The biggest differences is the "strategic" layer.
This you are tasked with building a camp and surviving. You have to send people out to hunt and chop wood. Build heaters in your tents, call arms dealers to trade and sell weapons. Staff a medic to heal wounds, radio operator, gunsmith to repair weapons etc.
I find this much more fun than CF44 strategic layer.

Combat-wise its pretty different. Personally it feels a little early-access in levels of polish and general play. The animations are a bit janky, the troops take 3-5 shots to kill which I don't love. The graphics are worse and look a bit retro.

That being said I do like this game better. The combat just feels better. It's simpler.
I do think it needs 3-6 mos of Dev work to really get the most out of it. The strategic layer has no "help" on what you need/should/can do. you have to just fumble through it. Also (currently) I have no med supplies so my whole squad is at 50% HP for months and I don't know if the game will "fix" this or i'm bad or its a bug.

My honest suggestion is pick it up in 3mos after some bigger updates have happened.

[Centurion Developments]

Originally posted by GHOST of Meridia:

I'm only 6 missions in so take this for what its worth..
(I'm assuming you played Classified France: CF44)
The missions so far are very similar ((as your a multinational resistance)
The biggest differences is the "strategic" layer.
This you are tasked with building a camp and surviving. You have to send people out to hunt and chop wood. Build heaters in your tents, call arms dealers to trade and sell weapons. Staff a medic to heal wounds, radio operator, gunsmith to repair weapons etc.
I find this much more fun than CF44 strategic layer.

Combat-wise its pretty different. Personally it feels a little early-access in levels of polish and general play. The animations are a bit janky, the troops take 3-5 shots to kill which I don't love. The graphics are worse and look a bit retro.

That being said I do like this game better. The combat just feels better. It's simpler.
I do think it needs 3-6 mos of Dev work to really get the most out of it. The strategic layer has no "help" on what you need/should/can do. you have to just fumble through it. Also (currently) I have no med supplies so my whole squad is at 50% HP for months and I don't know if the game will "fix" this or i'm bad or its a bug.

My honest suggestion is pick it up in 3mos after some bigger updates have happened.

Hello and thanks for your thoughts. Just a quick question regarding the medicine. Did you ask your allies for supplies? They will send you some food and medicine. But depends if you have proper radioman operating radio and what his level is. And what relations you have with the world powers.

[Helmet Hair]

Yeah, my main issue is that a German can eat 3 rounds of a Karabiner 98k before dying. And I have not noticed any wounds mechanic for the enemy.

[Centurion Developments]

Originally posted by Helmet Hair:

Yeah, my main issue is that a German can eat 3 rounds of a Karabiner 98k before dying. And I have not noticed any wounds mechanic for the enemy.

The enemy can get wounds and bleeding too. Check that small "patch" symbol next to their name banner. If they got injury, they are penalized same as you are when injured. As for the weapons. You start as not skilled soldier. You level up as the time goes. And the weapon familiarity is very important.

[Antatt]

The main difference between the two games in the difficulty levels. In this one there are no difficulty levels it's like permanently on "Very Difficult" and Classified France 44 has three levels to choose from. On one turn the game ended because a guy got killed on one shot from a German soldier and I had to reload/restart. The Classified France 44 allows your men to recover and withdraw - no end-of-game.

Also both games let you get in position before starting to fight as well as stealth kills. You can assess you approach on the map and flank the enemy. I would like to see a similar combat mechanic to Jagged Alliance 3 - aiming at body parts, different levels of zooming, difference munitions, and modding weapons.

Some people might prefer no difficulty levels like a brave soldier who has no choice and must accept what happens stoically ;-). But I prefer to play to relax rather than stress out!

[Centurion Developments]

Originally posted by Antatt:

The main difference between the two games in the difficulty levels. In this one there are no difficulty levels it's like permanently on "Very Difficult" and Classified France 44 has three levels to choose from. On one turn the game ended because a guy got killed on one shot from a German soldier and I had to reload/restart. The Classified France 44 allows your men to recover and withdraw - no end-of-game.

Also both games let you get in position before starting to fight as well as stealth kills. You can assess you approach on the map and flank the enemy. I would like to see a similar combat mechanic to Jagged Alliance 3 - aiming at body parts, different levels of zooming, difference munitions, and modding weapons.

Some people might prefer no difficulty levels like a brave soldier who has no choice and must accept what happens stoically ;-). But I prefer to play to relax rather than stress out!

After gathering some feedback from players, there is a chance we will add some "easier" option. We notice there are 2 groups of people. One group (probably hardcore players) like the way it is. But there is another group saying its too difficult. So probably the easy option should he offered. We will see.

[GHOST of Meridia]

Yes I have a proper radioman and request everytime cooldown is over.
The supplies I get only last a week or two. Ive suceeded everymission but my guys do get hit.

This next mission I think im screwed because only 2 people are above 50%

My honest suggestion is pick it up in 3mos after some bigger updates have happened. [/quote]
Hello and thanks for your thoughts. Just a quick question regarding the medicine. Did you ask your allies for supplies? They will send you some food and medicine. But depends if you have proper radioman operating radio and what his level is. And what relations you have with the world powers. [/quote]

[bearclaws]

I am not as far in but agree with most of the original except for one thought. combat seems odd in the first few mission my guys are trained but only have a 28 to 30 % to hit an untrained german troop that low odd for a trained solder

[Centurion Developments]

Originally posted by bearclaws:

I am not as far in but agree with most of the original except for one thought. combat seems odd in the first few mission my guys are trained but only have a 28 to 30 % to hit an untrained german troop that low odd for a trained solder

Hello. Your men starts as untrained. As you skill them up, and they get better weapon familiarity, they become better and better. But We will add another level of difficulty soon. For players they look like less challenge and more fun.