why no brazil?

[_galaxy]

why can't we have quality games here :(

[AtomicWVGirl]

I heard that Steam has some issues with region blocks for the game, but if you go to the official site, you should be able to download it there and still be able to play it just fine.

http://mabinogi.nexon.net/Support/ClientDrivers

If anyone can elaborate on Steam and Regions, then please post here. I really don't know anything about it. ^^ Sorry.

[_galaxy]

Originally posted by Shoog:

I heard that Steam has some issues with region blocks for the game, but if you go to the official site, you should be able to download it there and still be able to play it just fine.

http://mabinogi.nexon.net/Support/ClientDrivers

If anyone can elaborate on Steam and Regions, then please post here. I really don't know anything about it. ^^ Sorry.

Sorry I don't like downloading games outside steam, mostly because I like to have stuff on my profile such as playtime, achievements and etc.

I can't help you with region lock (A good place would be to ask on the greenlight developer forums) but I can help with brazilian translation if you need :D

[Naxos]

Indeed, Steam actually only serves North America as a platform for the game currently. As a european player I'm also cut off from the arrangement. I wish this was somehow changed, but from what I understand it's a restriction imposed by Steam on Nexon NA (as the other versions of Mabinogi are not at all on Steam, though one might think that wouldn't be such a bad thing to implement) as part of a legal and license issue. Other Nexon games seem to start using Steam, so it's a possibility that the situation may change if the issue is pressed enough.

I'm not particularly sure the devs are looking into translation currently, as the NA version is more or less considered International because the IP restriction was lifted some years ago, and the globablly accepted international language still tend toward english. While the game would support a different language as long as it uses the same font, all translations still has to go through the team at Nexon HQ or Nexon NA's HQ depending on how the translations are handled. There is a very, very large amount of content and text to be translated, meaning you'd not only need a team, but a relatively large time period to back track and retranslate everything, and this would have to be done professionally from an industry quality standart. You could still propose your help, but as mentionned currently that probably isn't their focus point.

As far as your habit of having the games on Steam for your profile, I dont know if it works that way, but you could link the game to your steam account still as a non-steam game. I dont know whether that'll serve the purposes you want, but you'll have the Steam Overlay available (that much I know).

[_galaxy]

Originally posted by Naxos:

Indeed, Steam actually only serves North America as a platform for the game currently. As a european player I'm also cut off from the arrangement. I wish this was somehow changed, but from what I understand it's a restriction imposed by Steam on Nexon NA (as the other versions of Mabinogi are not at all on Steam, though one might think that wouldn't be such a bad thing to implement) as part of a legal and license issue. Other Nexon games seem to start using Steam, so it's a possibility that the situation may change if the issue is pressed enough.

I'm not particularly sure the devs are looking into translation currently, as the NA version is more or less considered International because the IP restriction was lifted some years ago, and the globablly accepted international language still tend toward english. While the game would support a different language as long as it uses the same font, all translations still has to go through the team at Nexon HQ or Nexon NA's HQ depending on how the translations are handled. There is a very, very large amount of content and text to be translated, meaning you'd not only need a team, but a relatively large time period to back track and retranslate everything, and this would have to be done professionally from an industry quality standart. You could still propose your help, but as mentionned currently that probably isn't their focus point.

As far as your habit of having the games on Steam for your profile, I dont know if it works that way, but you could link the game to your steam account still as a non-steam game. I dont know whether that'll serve the purposes you want, but you'll have the Steam Overlay available (that much I know).

Uh yeah guess that translation will be real pain, better not xD

But a developer that can't play his own game because of region block? That's really sad.

I don't know what that Nexon is (A publisher?) but if they got too many games you guys can maybe talk with the other developers and try to come up with an solution with Nexon, I mean this can't stay like this forever D:

As for non-steam games, yeah they'll show on my profile while playing but I won't have things such as achievements or playtime, sorry it's my pilosophy :/

[Satoru]

https://steamdb.info/app/212200/info/

The game is currenly purchase restricted to USA/Mexico/Canada/NewZealand/Australia

Those kinds of restrictions are set by the publisher Nexon

It appears Nexon already shutdown the European servers several yeras ago. Thus likely they want to control who can log into their existing services to the existing regions they support actively.

http://mabinogi.nexon.net/News/announcements/8/00DrE

Nexon had already shutdown the EU servers in early 2012, by the time it was releaesd on Steam in Dec 2012 the EU region was already dead. While they whitelisted EU IP's from the NA servers, they appear to want to control who can see the game on Steam to regions where the game is actively supported. even if you acn get around the 'soft ban' by using their native client instead.

Given the game client on Steam is only in English the regions selected are likely (other than Mexico) due to english being the primary language used in those countries. Since the EU servers were a failure in terms of numbers I wouldn't expect any translations in the future to EU languages (french/spanish/german/etc)


Also just in general, Nexon tends to make their games weirdly purchase restricted on Steam.

[Satoru]

Originally posted by ℜenato ℒopes ⌬:

But a developer that can't play his own game because of region block? That's really sad.
/

Note on moderators on game hubs have orange names. But they don't necessarily need to be developers

Developers of the game, if they receive that designation, have green names and have [developer] after their names when they post in their game hubs.

[_galaxy]

Originally posted by Satoru:

Originally posted by ℜenato ℒopes ⌬:

But a developer that can't play his own game because of region block? That's really sad.
/

Note on moderators on game hubs have orange names. But they don't necessarily need to be developers

Developers of the game, if they receive that designation, have green names and have [developer] after their names when they post in their game hubs.

oh my bad.

But hey! I'm speaking english right now and I"m from brazil, and there's a lot of brazilian players on this game from the videos I have seen. Not to mention almost all my friends speaks english, and on real life a considered number.

[Naxos]

Originally posted by Satoru:

https://steamdb.info/app/212200/info/

The game is currenly purchase restricted to USA/Mexico/Canada/NewZealand/Australia

Those kinds of restrictions are set by the publisher Nexon

Actually, it sort of has to do with their original service region, which is indeed set to the US, Mexico, Canada, New Zealand and Australia. As far as I know, only Mabinogi is affected by the whitelisting of foreign IP, the service region thus didn't change as a whole, hence potential legal issues with Steam if it was done otherwise. That's how I picture it in any case. Technically, for Mabinogi and Mabinogi only, the IP ban is lifted for all, but the company is only responsible for it's service region legally. Since Steam is another company of it's own, arrangements when it comes to products must be made within the boundaries, it cant open to other regions it is not legally responsible for. Not via Steam.

Also indeed, I'm no dev, just a regular ol' moderator. Devs are shown in Yellow with a Star if I'm remembering correctly.

[_galaxy]

Originally posted by Naxos:

Actually, it sort of has to do with their original service region, which is indeed set to the US, Mexico, Canada, New Zealand and Australia. As far as I know, only Mabinogi is affected by the whitelisting of foreign IP, the service region thus didn't change as a whole, hence potential legal issues with Steam if it was done otherwise. That's how I picture it in any case. Technically, for Mabinogi and Mabinogi only, the IP ban is lifted for all, but the company is only responsible for it's service region legally. Since Steam is another company of it's own, arrangements when it comes to products must be made within the boundaries, it cant open to other regions it is not legally responsible for. Not via Steam.

Also indeed, I'm no dev, just a regular ol' moderator. Devs are shown in Yellow with a Star if I'm remembering correctly.

Yo get in touch with da publisher cause TIME IS MANEY

[Alyu]

Renato,I'm against a Brazilian version Of Mabinogi.Why?'Cause I'm Brazilian.I played Ragnarok,Elsword,Getamped 2 and several other games brought to our country.Most of the Brazilian serves and its players are hard to deal with.I even remenber when I sent a ticket to lug!.Well,I got an answer...6 months later.Also,Most Of the Brazilian players are weird and rude.I the hue mentality is majority for our country gamers.I've made some good friendships in those games and Mabinogi hás a lot to offer for us but it might not work Well.I remenber I saw 2 Brazilian player at Tir(The first city Of the game).They were struggling with the básica and I noticed They were speaking Brazilian portuguese só I offered to help them.What They did?They flirted with me(I use a female carácter)and offended me when I told them I'm a guy.If you want to play,I can help you if you make a carácter in Alexina but the game itself should not be translated.

[Alyu]

Forgot to add.Nexon answered My ticket in a day and returned What I lost with a glicth...That would never happen in a Brazilian server.

[Satoru]

Originally posted by Naxos:

Actually, it sort of has to do with their original service region, which is indeed set to the US, Mexico, Canada, New Zealand and Australia. As far as I know, only Mabinogi is affected by the whitelisting of foreign IP, the service region thus didn't change as a whole, hence potential legal issues with Steam if it was done otherwise. That's how I picture it in any case. Technically, for Mabinogi and Mabinogi only, the IP ban is lifted for all, but the company is only responsible for it's service region legally. Since Steam is another company of it's own, arrangements when it comes to products must be made within the boundaries, it cant open to other regions it is not legally responsible for. Not via Steam.

Note steam is just a storefront. The only real difference is that they generally integrate Steam's money into the system so you can buy in-game currency with steam wallet in addition to anything else the game will support.

The "Purchase Restricted Countries" tag is controlled by the developers not Steam. Steam doesn't really control how games are sold on steam that much. F2P games do have to have a steam integrated store front so users can buy in-game items/currency with steam wallet. But other than that they're not distribiting or publishing the game in any way that would restrict it.

Also indeed, I'm no dev, just a regular ol' moderator. Devs are shown in Yellow with a Star if I'm remembering correctly.

Developers will have green names and have a 'developer' name after them

http://steamcommunity.com/app/262060/discussions/0/458607699610743446/

You can see it in this post here. the OP's name is green, and has an yellow 'developer' tag next to it.

Moderators, like yourself, will have orange names and a star.

[_galaxy]

Yo Asy,o gibus, you're right. Not adding brazilian translations will hopefully filter at least half of the bad brazilians. But not all brazilians are bad! You see, I am a good brazilian.
I may not look like one because I speak english all the time xD

But, yeah I sometimes use the HUE especial attack, but it's been so long time! I normally use it only on facebook, or on a steam conversation, but on an actual game finding the right situation is a bit hard.

You know a good thing we could do? If the game gets region unlocked all brazilians will have a especial brazilian servers where people like we will avaliate if they can acess the other servers or not, if he gets approved he can play on brazilian and other language servers, if he gets desapproved he basically stay on that server forever (as a punishment LOL).



Wow! It would be a good idea to punish english people that behave bad to that brazilian island, like if a guy breaks the game rules depending he maybe get punished one wekk to the brazilian island, with no option to mute people xD that would be fun!!!

[Alyu]

I'm not saying who says all Brazilian are hue should be punished.I'm saying the majority Of Brazilian players I've met are hue.You know...you are free to message,add or note me in game or message me here at steam.I'd rather continue this conversation in privace since I really disagree your view and I do not want to keep this thread going with this tópico.Again,I'm Argyla from Alexina.Havê a nice day.

[_galaxy]

Originally posted by Asy,o gibus:

I'm not saying who says all Brazilian are hue should be punished.I'm saying the majority Of Brazilian players I've met are hue.You know...you are free to message,add or note me in game or message me here at steam.I'd rather continue this conversation in privace since I really disagree your view and I do not want to keep this thread going with this tópico.Again,I'm Argyla from Alexina.Havê a nice day.

Yeah, not a good idea. Well, if the devs ever get to ffix the localization problem we can think about it.... until them we won't be able to see the brazilian island x