Need a hand with B227.

[Adrian]

So, This is what i did. Started with Gray, Grabbed the Memory, Wings and Sword, Killed Eus and Gor, completed the Gray's Run. Started Lillie's run, Went to B000, Grabbed the Upgraded staff, did all the way to B227, and i can't do it lmao, there's a Lighting statue that i can't move until i kill all the monsters, and there is a hand monster after a gap, so i can't do anything. Do i need the wings and sword there to do it? The chests were empty after Gray's run. Did i messed up at some point? Do i have to keep the Staff there until Cif's run to complete the B227? I'm frying my brain overthinking.

[Wymar "Why me?" Sane]

You can use the sword while flying just fine.

[Adrian]

Originally posted by Wymar "Why me?" Sane:

You can use the sword while flying just fine.

Yes, the thing is that, on Lillie's run don't have anything because i used it with Gray to kill Eus and Gor. The chests were empty on Lillie's run, so i don't have anything but the Upgraded staff.

[Jakebob-Smegheneghan]

You've done things mostly correct, but you may have messed up with your order of operations. You need those tools to clear B227 properly, as the levels that follow WILL require the use of those items to complete them. What you would want to do is collect the items on the character that you'd like to have complete the Long Run (as either Gray or Lillie can complete it, but not Cif), then kill the bosses as that character to acquire the fancy Scepter before heading to B227.

[Adrian]

Originally posted by Jakebob-Smegheneghan:

You've done things mostly correct, but you may have messed up with your order of operations. You need those tools to clear B227 properly, as the levels that follow WILL require the use of those items to complete them. What you would want to do is collect the items on the character that you'd like to have complete the Long Run (as either Gray or Lillie can complete it, but not Cif), then kill the bosses as that character to acquire the fancy Scepter before heading to B227.

Wait i'm having a stroke lmao. You can actually do it with Gray? Gray isn't the first run? You can kill Eus and go back to B000, but you can't kill Gor and go back to B000, to grab the Upgraded Scepter. Gor isn't like the B143?. i can't kill Eus without the Wings and the Sword, but if i do it they don't appear again in the second character run. Maybe i'm missing something? I'm cooking my brain right now.

[fluffy buny]

Originally posted by Adrian:

Originally posted by Jakebob-Smegheneghan:

You've done things mostly correct, but you may have messed up with your order of operations. You need those tools to clear B227 properly, as the levels that follow WILL require the use of those items to complete them. What you would want to do is collect the items on the character that you'd like to have complete the Long Run (as either Gray or Lillie can complete it, but not Cif), then kill the bosses as that character to acquire the fancy Scepter before heading to B227.

Wait i'm having a stroke lmao. You can actually do it with Gray? Gray isn't the first run? You can kill Eus and go back to B000, but you can't kill Gor and go back to B000, to grab the Upgraded Scepter. Gor isn't like the B143?. i can't kill Eus without the Wings and the Sword, but if i do it they don't appear again in the second character run. Maybe i'm missing something? I'm cooking my brain right now.

when you carved Eus' brand, recall what the rock egg in that room says to you

hell, i think you can also just use a Cif statue and they will remain dead

[Adrian]

Originally posted by fluffy buny:

Originally posted by Adrian:

Wait i'm having a stroke lmao. You can actually do it with Gray? Gray isn't the first run? You can kill Eus and go back to B000, but you can't kill Gor and go back to B000, to grab the Upgraded Scepter. Gor isn't like the B143?. i can't kill Eus without the Wings and the Sword, but if i do it they don't appear again in the second character run. Maybe i'm missing something? I'm cooking my brain right now.

when you carved Eus' brand, recall what the rock egg in that room says to you

hell, i think you can also just use a Cif statue and they will remain dead

Oh boy, i never tried using that, I thought it was gonna wipe my whole save file, not that it was gonna restart my run, or teleport me to the beginning.
Thanks a lot everyone

[Jakebob-Smegheneghan]

Yeah, the Cif statue warp will remove locusts, but retain progress of NPCs and Void Gear. It's an easy assumption to make, that it wipes all progress, and isn't wholly obvious since "only a simple memory will remain" and all.

I know there is a way to wipe all progress... but that isn't important here, I don't think