Need a teeny tiny hint about a late game brand

[Sykes]

Warning: spoilers ahead. Please don't read or try to help unless you are extremely confident you've truly understood everything. I don't want to ruin anything for you by what I say. That said...

I've completed almost everything that there is to find in the normal mode including the true ending and I've gotten this far all on my own so far which feels great, but I am struggling with anything revolving around Cif's brand. I do NOT want told just how to find it, but just a TINY nudge in the direction.

I have not played much of Lillie/hard mode. If the answer is in her story, that's all I need to know and I will push through. I've just been spending all my effort exploring and studying every inch of normal mode and it is BLOWING my mind where any information about Cif's brand could be hidden.

Please don't spoil anything big, I'm happy to answer more questions if you need to know things that I've found already. I'm really scared to Google anything about the game or even search these forums, and I know nobody else who has played as deep as I have, but I know when I need help and I'd really like to at least know vaguely what path to take to find this information.

If it's something I can find without doing Hard mode, I can't fathom where it's hidden. I've scrubbed this place with a tooth brush...

[postal]

Yeah the answer is in the Lillie/hard mode playthrough.

[Sykes]

Originally posted by postal:

Yeah the answer is in the Lillie/hard mode playthrough.

Alright thank you, I am on the cusp of insanity with how much I've dug. This motivates me to push through hard mode and that's all I needed.

[Gyger]

Have you checked EVERY floor?

[Sykes]

Okay, major spoilers ahead.

So I've gotten further, and I've beaten all 3 characters campaigns now. I realize that what people might have understood me as asking about the Cif special brand, but I am actually wondering what the actual brand is for Cif's Domain, the one behind the rock saying it's already filled in somewhere. For the longest time I thought it was referring to the 1st brand (Add's), but I don't think that's the case.

I quickly discovered that every brand is based on the symbols from Zero Ranger, numbers 0 through 7. Every brand is one of the numbers without fail. Add's is the 0 (so is the icon on the memory that Add gives Lev during Gray's ending), the Eus's is the number 1, Bee is 2, and so on and so forth until you get to Cif who SHOULD be number 7 but the brand itself is not readable on the wall, and I checked everywhere for the number 7, from floors 0-255 and beyond, on all 3 characters. I dived into the depths of every brand, including my own.

At this point, I'm convinced that the number 7 brand doesn't exist. Her icon after you beat Cif's "carcass" secret ending even shows very clearly the Zero Ranger #7 icon in the background, and her "embryo/true form" is shaped just like it too, sort of like a shrimp. I know what the brand should look like, but I cannot find it.

[Aioli]

I think I know what you're talking about, and the solution.

There's a level that is automatically skipped in Cif's domain, it should be floor B223 if I remember correctly, by teleporting to it by other means you can see the brand.

[postal]

Oh my bad, yeah I thought you meant that other Cif brand.
So basically, you're trying to find the room the rock at the start of Cif's domain was referring to when he said the mural was already carved somewhere, right?
If so and you still don't want the outright solution, then yeah Gyger's post is the hint you'd be wanting. If you're wanting to narrow the scope a tiny bit more - Are you sure you've checked every floor WITHIN Cif's domain?
And a tad more: Are you sure you've even SEEN every floor within Cif's domain?

[Sykes]

Originally posted by Aioli:

I think I know what you're talking about, and the solution.

There's a level that is automatically skipped in Cif's domain, it should be floor B223 if I remember correctly, by teleporting to it by other means you can see the brand.

DAMN how did I never notice this. Thanks....

[Aioli]

No need to feel too bad about it, I missed it as well on my first time through, only found out after lurking the forums.