To Anyone Experiencing Performance Issues...

[Zero]

Read this post, study it, try to absorb it, if I have to educate another person about how compatibility trumps performance I'm gonna live on an asteroid with a bunch of grand pianos and poisoned pizza.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/212160/discussions/0/2971775284259600408/?ctp=3

Originally posted by Zero:

Originally posted by Captain_Kaiju:

Meeting the requirements does NOT mean the same as being optimized. Besides, what's wrong with the game getting an engine update? If you're not having issues you get an awesome new big update and if you do have issues they'll most likely be gone with the update?

Fighting against something that's a literal win/win is just...nonsensical.

What I'm trying to say is that, yes you might meet the minimum, even the recommended requirements, but even if you're using an Intel Xeon Platinum 8180M and NVIDIA Quadro RTX 8000[www.amazon.com], you can still encounter issues, whereas my, by comparison, little AMD FX-8320 and ASUS Strix R9 390, wouldn't.

The developers can't possibly optimize for every single hardware configuration, even if they're sky higher than the recommended.

That's the point, it isn't the games optimization, it's your hardware, and it isn't an insult or an attack, as Plank put it, on your cheap hardware, it's just how your hardware is handling the game. They could optimize it for your specific setup, and you'd be good, but you'll get hundreds of others saying it's garbage because now it doesn't run on their system.

Can't please everyone, unfortunately, all we ever get to hear, are those with the issues.

PS: Read the reviews on the graphics card, they're hilarious

[PJ]

How does this help me?

[Zero]

Originally posted by It's me:

How does this help me?

If it doesn't, there was no need to post.

[PJ]

Originally posted by Zero:

Originally posted by It's me:

How does this help me?

If it doesn't, there was no need to post.

This thread is pointless, got it.

[Zero]

Originally posted by It's me:

Originally posted by Zero:

If it doesn't, there was no need to post.

This thread is pointless, got it.

If you read it, you'd understand.

[Zero]

Bumping...

To clarify, this post was never intended to help anyone, just explain why it runs like poo for some, and fine for others, and to glean from that, is that not everyone can be helped. Everyone looking for a fix-all solution, and there isn't one, like "X program has encountered error 123456", and the fix is to install this update, done! That isn't the case if the game simply isn't compatible with your hardware setup; there is no fix, for you, just deal with the minor stuttering at load times, and accept the fact that, somewhere along the lines, everyone got spoiled with 60fps being the 'new standard', because 30+fps is not only acceptable, it is indeed playable. I, for one, get around 40-50, and about 10 seconds of stuttering when loading into a mission, or back into town, which clears up, and then the game runs fine, but, that's me. Complaining about these minor stutters not only shows a lack of patience, but also a disgusting privileged attitude and spoiled mentality, which runs f'ing rampant these days, as if this free to play game owes the player something.

Compatibility does trump optimization; because they can optimize until the cows come home, but if your hardware says no, there's no way to shoehorn in a software fix, if it's a hardware issue.

[Thorgald]

Sorry but there are literally countless millions of games (both low budget indie and big budget AAA) out there that run perfectly fine on pretty much anything you can throw at it that meet the minimum recommendations... Or even below that more often than not.

So what makes this game such a special case?

There's just no excuses for this game to run as abysmally poor as it does on so many different systems.

[Zero]

Originally posted by Thorgald:

Sorry but there are literally countless millions of games (both low budget indie and big budget AAA) out there that run perfectly fine on pretty much anything you can throw at it that meet the minimum recommendations... Or even below that more often than not.

So what makes this game such a special case?

There's just no excuses for this game to run as abysmally poor as it does on so many different systems.

What constitutes 'abysmally poor', in your opinion? Runs fine on my PC.

[VTewlaghe]

The game is old and uses an old third-party engine, which is the Source Engine.

That engine was simply not made for newer tech beyond it's point of entry, so of course it won't run as good on newer tech, patched or no.

To "optimize" a game like this, the devs would most likely end up replacing the old engine, which will just lead to them having to redo the entire game, which at that point might as well be it's own "remastered" game.