How much P2W?

[Spirit]

Would like to hear from F2P players. Is it possible to play and enjoy this game without ever prchasing anything? I come from playing Dragon Nest, which unfortunatly turned too much P2W, and decided to try a new mmorpg with similar fighting.

Do you bother on gear before you hit max lvl? How does enhancing your gear works? do you need to buy oil/jellies/etc from cashshop and use them to prevent your gear from breaking if the enhancement is unsuccesfull? Is the game still alive? Is the community toxic? Any tips would be highly appreciated, thank you.

[Umbral Knight]

1. You upgrade gear at some points in the story but the heavy focus on it doesn't happen until after level 90. The first portion of the game is streamlined for new players and isn't as hard as it used to be. The further you travel in the story the hardeer the games gets though. S1 is baby food. S2 is cold pizza. S3 & beyond is rock solid. There's a lot of tutorials so don't worry too much about enchancning bro. Worry about RNG.

2. The game is very much alive. Players are really loyal to the game. Two main servers, NA/EU & whatever the other one was again... The community is nowhere near the toxicity of league of legends. Honestly, its hard to actually feel any toxicity from the game unless you seek it out.

I used to play DN a long time ago. There's some similarities in the game but a vast amount of differences.

3. P2W. It's there but it isn't a hindrance. There's no paywalls or anything, just nothing but cosmetics items and RNG chance decreasers. People pay a lot for cosmetic items which can be sold in game too. Time is tthe strongest adversary in this game, if you want to be strong fast then you can say this game is P2W. If you're fine gradually growing then this game is fine.

[crackmonk]

also having good gear or better doesn't necessarily mean you win. i personally hav seen many people with good gear and them getting their sh.t pushed in. hell i've got ok gear and i get my sh.t pushed in fairly often with some of the end game bosses.

[Kula]

As far as i know, ppl in this game are so kind, there is nothing to be worry about until lv100, which you need to farm and gear up. come and play ill give you 7days vvip for free.

[Kula]

This game could be a pay to win. but it doesn't matter if you don't. most $$$$$ were spent on beautiful outfits. +cold

[crackmonk]

AND them pretty undies

[Spirit]

Originally posted by Kula:

As far as i know, ppl in this game are so kind, there is nothing to be worry about until lv100, which you need to farm and gear up. come and play ill give you 7days vvip for free.

thanks, but decided to uninstall after a few hours. Couldnt find a party anywhere and everybody ignored me. Also, I didnt manage to lvl from 20 to 21 in 3 dungeons, so I dont think I will be able to deal with the grind.

[Umbral Knight]

To each their own/ Only thing left I have to say is... levling 1-90 is a completely solo experience. Respectively, you should not actually need a party as long as you follow the storyline.

[crackmonk]

yeaah. and you're not getting XP to level from the dungeons, it's the story that gives XP. lv1 to 70 is the slowest but 70 to 100 can be super fast.

[Spirit]

Oh yeah, I was not doing the story. Well, perhaps another time in the future. Thanks for all the replies

[crackmonk]

if you were playing on NA i can help ingame with whatever

[Gigalo]

I don't blame you for uninstalling. It was likely the right decision.

[You Kissed a Boy and Liked It]

Originally posted by Spirit:

Would like to hear from F2P players. Is it possible to play and enjoy this game without ever prchasing anything?

If you're okay with just enjoying the gameplay, and also have a regular co-op partner to play with (*not that it requires co-op until end-game -- the game has been 'casualised' a lot in recent years), you might like it. Apparently (*I haven't played many MMO's, so cannot verify / deny this claim), Vindictus has the best action gameplay for MMO's... As disturbing and indicting as that is, relative to the ARPG MMO genre -- given how old Vindictus is.

On the other hand, if you want the best cosmetics, highest level weaponry, to compete in "Raids" (team orientated boss fights), enjoy end-game in general, and to avail the full extent of the crafting system (*a high level of crafting skill is required for the best gear -- a catch-22 tied to some high level 'plateau' boss fights... indeed, each, separate skill of which {weaponsmithing, armorsmithing etc.} only one char. profile can possess at any one time), you will pay through the teeth for it.

This game incorporates an upgrade system ("enhancements") that has a hyperbolic decrease in success probability, inversely proportionally to the upgrade level being attempted (*albeit, a guaranteed success mechanics does seem to have been implemented recently... but, which still take many failures for it to grant a 100% successful upgrade or buff / "enchantment") -- effectively forcing the use of "Protection Runes" (items that stop equipment degradation / destruction upon inevitable upgrade attempt failures), which are not easy to come by (without paying for them), and which also usually get consumed--successful upgrade or otherwise.

In other words, the game is now easy enough to play solo or co-operatively until Lv100 (*possible to power level to ~10 days); after which point, copious real-world money or an unwieldy amount of in-game zenny ("gold") is needed to acquire the gear for chars. to continue to compete. In this sense, you could get a lot of free-play time from levelling the dozen or whatever characters that are in the game (if that's your thing)... It's just that not everything will be accessible to non-$u¢ker$.

[Valkyr]

Whole game is p2w

[crackmonk]

Originally posted by Valkyr:

Whole game is p2w

get out

[Thine Very Own, Nemesis~]

Originally posted by crackmonk:

Originally posted by Valkyr:

Whole game is p2w

get out

Have to agree
The most pay to win aspect of the game is outfitters but you can actually buy them in the market for relativly cheap