Shipping ... and Receiving. 13 out of 14 secrets!?

[Yorrex]

On post-mission statistics screen I am told what I wrote on the title, finding 13 out of 14 secrets. Problem is, every walkthrough and wiki about Thief 2 says that there are only 13 secrets on this mission. I am using the NewDark 1.19 patch if that has anything to do with it.

I assume it is just the game being wrong on how many secrets there are in the mission but I'd be interested to know what is this about. I can post a screenshot of the stat screen once I figure out how, F12 doesnt do the trick.

[constancejill]

If you're using NewDark, the key to take a screenshot is the one that says Print Screen on your keyboard :D
BTW NewDark is at version 1.21 now.

[Yorrex]

*shrug* Print Screen only makes the game freeze on the current frame for a second but no screenshots. Oh well, a quirk in the game I guess. People much more fanatic than me are sure to have found a 14th secret if it ever existed.

[ps47.3dfx]

the "freezing" is the game capturing the screenshot. check the screenshots folder.

[Yorrex]

I have. Really now, I know how Steam works. The usual buttons or tweaking with settings just doesnt take any screenshots to my knowledge.

But the point of the thread was not how to take screenshots in Thief 2 but about if anyone knew of this peculier 13 out of 14 secrets that the game tells me on that level when all the available information on the web says there are only 13 of them in Shipping ... and Receiving.

[constancejill]

It's not about how Steam works but about how the game itself works.

Anyway, I just reinstalled "OldDark" and checked: it says 13 secrets total too.
Right after installing NewDark on it, it says 14.
So I guess that's just something in that mission which doesn't work exactly the same with NewDark.

[Deadpan Serious]

errr...guys. Print Screen takes an actual Screenshot. this simply means that the screen, hwat is displayed on your monitor (well roughly, sometimes there are a few differences), is copied as a clipnote. you can then paste this into Paint.

THAT is what a Screenshot is. it has existed for many years, and has nothing to do with neither Steam nor Thief. i think it's a Windows function.

Steam be damned with their plagiarising the term for their inbuilt version of it.

[constancejill]

If I remember well though, at least with the pre-NewDark version of the game, taking a screenshot "the old way" (pasting from clipboard) won't work, you'll probably only get a completely black picture. So you need to get that one which the game fortunately saves by itself (when you press the right key).

Edit : same with the NewDark version, so no, you can't take a screenshot the traditional way in this game. But it automatically saves it for you, as long as you use one of the keys which is bound to the feature inside the game.

[Yorrex]

How curious, to waste time for a reply detailing an inconsequential detail (a detail which I already pointed out doesnt concern my mind or being the point of the thread) in a thread thats already otherwise solved thats nearly a month old.

That bored?

[Deadpan Serious]

oh, nvm. i somehow thought this was recent. guess i forgot this is a fairly dead forum.

[TazmanianD]

I hate to resurrect such on old thread but I'm wondering if there is a bug in one of the versions of NewDark. I'm playing Thief 2 right now and found the 13 secrets and was having trouble finding the 14th. The thing is that I keep track of how much loot and how many secrets I find each time I play so I can try to get better each time. The last time I played a few years ago with one of the early version of NewDark, I wrote down that I'd found all 14 secrets. I also wrote down that I'd picked 18 pockets even though now the game says there's only 17.

I wonder if perhaps there is something that is a secret but finding it doesn't actually trigger the counter and that this bug was introduced in some version of NewDark. Or maybe TafferPatcher which I'm also using? Or maybe I just wrote down the wrong number previously but that seems like quite a coincidence.

[SteveIlMafiodo]

Resurrecting again this thread, but my hypothesis is : NewDark 'canceled' the 14th secret, which I think is the arrow in Lord Porter's painting. I don't remember well, but I think in OldDark, 'Secret found' was displayed when you shot it, but it's no more now (just played today). So don't look for any undiscovered secret in the mission, this is probably a NewDark bug.

[ps47.3dfx]

no need for a hypothesis - there is an oldDark bug with the secrets that NewDark actually resolves, but some missions need to be manually fixed for the counts to display properly again.

use T2Fix, its overhauled missions already fix this.