Eviterno is crap

[Laughing With Salad]

I can literally faceroll through this entire game

I can LITERALLY no-damage Eviterno's phase 1

I can already tell that facerolling the final boss is a guaranteed certainty

Eviterno's phase 2 is so stupidly overtuned it's ridiculous. Nobody with a life has time for this crap. Why would you make the whole rest of the game piss easy, save for that one fraction of it right at the end when you just want to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wrap things up already? So dumb.

[thorin.hannahs]

This give me hope as I was really let down by every boss so far.

[IwanttohavtheDamBurger]

Originally posted by Laughing With Salad:

I can literally faceroll through this entire game

I can LITERALLY no-damage Eviterno's phase 1

I can already tell that facerolling the final boss is a guaranteed certainty

Eviterno's phase 2 is so stupidly overtuned it's ridiculous. Nobody with a life has time for this crap. Why would you make the whole rest of the game piss easy, save for that one fraction of it right at the end when you just want to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wrap things up already? So dumb.

you know you can cheese eviterno phase 2 by just spamming the lunge attack (with the sabres equipped whatever their name was)...and only dash away when eviterno does the high jump swing with covers have the screen, for the rest just spam lunge over and over mindlessly switching between left and right direction constantly and you wont get hit

[Vomit]

Originally posted by IwanttohavtheDamBurger:

Originally posted by Laughing With Salad:

I can literally faceroll through this entire game

I can LITERALLY no-damage Eviterno's phase 1

I can already tell that facerolling the final boss is a guaranteed certainty

Eviterno's phase 2 is so stupidly overtuned it's ridiculous. Nobody with a life has time for this crap. Why would you make the whole rest of the game piss easy, save for that one fraction of it right at the end when you just want to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wrap things up already? So dumb.

you know you can cheese eviterno phase 2 by just spamming the lunge attack (with the sabres equipped whatever their name was)...and only dash away when eviterno does the high jump swing with covers have the screen, for the rest just spam lunge over and over mindlessly switching between left and right direction constantly and you wont get hit

So you can cheese the boss? Who cares. This has nothing to do with OP's point.

The boss is annoying as hell the learn when fighting it legit.

[Dregora]

Originally posted by Vomit:

Originally posted by IwanttohavtheDamBurger:

you know you can cheese eviterno phase 2 by just spamming the lunge attack (with the sabres equipped whatever their name was)...and only dash away when eviterno does the high jump swing with covers have the screen, for the rest just spam lunge over and over mindlessly switching between left and right direction constantly and you wont get hit

So you can cheese the boss? Who cares. This has nothing to do with OP's point.

The boss is annoying as hell the learn when fighting it legit.

What about his way of fighting isn't legit? Isn't the game all about finding gaps to attack and stay safe?

[admiral1018]

I've been through the game a few times now. This was by far the hardest fight my first time around, and I could barely get in a single hit before getting killed in phase 2. On my most recent playthrough that I wrapped up yesterday, I was able to kill him on my second attempt (and only failed on the first since a glitch sent me off the screen, and I died without even being able to see it).

It took me several hours, but I have to say that this is a fair fight in and of itself. All of the moves are predictable and can be countered, and they all come in the same order in each fight. They keys for me were:

- Dodging. Parrying really is not effective outside of his upward slash, so dash away or through him
- Learning the exact number of hits you can safely get in after any move. This is critical. Once you've performed this number, dash away and get ready for the next move (which is always predictable)
- Similarly, learning the safe time to use a flask is just as important.
- On my first victory over him, I used all 3 rosary beads that reduce physical damage. This is enough to buy you an extra hit or two before needing to use a flask
- Resonances can make a big difference, but I found the most useful one to be the combination that stops time when you use a flask. This is enough time to use a spell or get in position for an attack

What is garbage is that this fight is preceded by unskippable cut scenes and a super-easy fight that doesn't help you train at all for the one after. I found those parts to be far more annoying than the phase 2 fight itself, and they were the only reason it even took me as long as it did to improve on the second phase.

[BIӨMΣCHΛПӨID69]

For god's sake devs, make the dialogue here skippable. Dumbest ♥♥♥♥ ever.

[BIӨMΣCHΛПӨID69]

Originally posted by admiral1018:

What is garbage is that this fight is preceded by unskippable cut scenes and a super-easy fight that doesn't help you train at all for the one after. I found those parts to be far more annoying than the phase 2 fight itself, and they were the only reason it even took me as long as it did to improve on the second phase.

Truth - Love Blasphemous 1 and this game is good so far, but this is by far one of the worst things to happen in these games.

[Kou]

Originally posted by admiral1018:

I've been through the game a few times now. This was by far the hardest fight my first time around, and I could barely get in a single hit before getting killed in phase 2. On my most recent playthrough that I wrapped up yesterday, I was able to kill him on my second attempt (and only failed on the first since a glitch sent me off the screen, and I died without even being able to see it).

It took me several hours, but I have to say that this is a fair fight in and of itself. All of the moves are predictable and can be countered, and they all come in the same order in each fight. They keys for me were:

- Dodging. Parrying really is not effective outside of his upward slash, so dash away or through him
- Learning the exact number of hits you can safely get in after any move. This is critical. Once you've performed this number, dash away and get ready for the next move (which is always predictable)
- Similarly, learning the safe time to use a flask is just as important.
- On my first victory over him, I used all 3 rosary beads that reduce physical damage. This is enough to buy you an extra hit or two before needing to use a flask
- Resonances can make a big difference, but I found the most useful one to be the combination that stops time when you use a flask. This is enough time to use a spell or get in position for an attack

What is garbage is that this fight is preceded by unskippable cut scenes and a super-easy fight that doesn't help you train at all for the one after. I found those parts to be far more annoying than the phase 2 fight itself, and they were the only reason it even took me as long as it did to improve on the second phase.

you actually prove how bad this fight is. You're saying it's about memorization. This isn't FF. Bosses in games like this should be beatable by response, not memorization. The other bosses in the game were. I cleared them all in 1-2 tries. This boss is horribly designed

[admiral1018]

Every "souls like" game requires pattern recognition and some level of memorization. Almost no one, even with the greatest reflexes in the world, is going to win a game like this based on pure reflexes. That's not an unintended flaw, it's the way this genre is designed.

[almurat89]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0wj1slwA24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkt40rkfcc0

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

Originally posted by admiral1018:

I've been through the game a few times now. This was by far the hardest fight my first time around, and I could barely get in a single hit before getting killed in phase 2. On my most recent playthrough that I wrapped up yesterday, I was able to kill him on my second attempt (and only failed on the first since a glitch sent me off the screen, and I died without even being able to see it).

It took me several hours, but I have to say that this is a fair fight in and of itself. All of the moves are predictable and can be countered, and they all come in the same order in each fight. They keys for me were:

- Dodging. Parrying really is not effective outside of his upward slash, so dash away or through him
- Learning the exact number of hits you can safely get in after any move. This is critical. Once you've performed this number, dash away and get ready for the next move (which is always predictable)
- Similarly, learning the safe time to use a flask is just as important.
- On my first victory over him, I used all 3 rosary beads that reduce physical damage. This is enough to buy you an extra hit or two before needing to use a flask
- Resonances can make a big difference, but I found the most useful one to be the combination that stops time when you use a flask. This is enough time to use a spell or get in position for an attack

What is garbage is that this fight is preceded by unskippable cut scenes and a super-easy fight that doesn't help you train at all for the one after. I found those parts to be far more annoying than the phase 2 fight itself, and they were the only reason it even took me as long as it did to improve on the second phase.

This 1000%

The fight is fair and can be fun when you learn how the boss works but the fact that you need to go through TWO unsinkable long cutscenes every time you need to retry is idiotic beyond comprehension

[Lagarto]

Nah, the second phase is hard, but 100% doable if you learn his patterns and how to dodge them.

[Death_Masta187]

This boss truly ruined this game for me. 80% of it was the stupid ass unskippable cut scenes the other 20% was the crazy difficulty spike. I am truly thankful I picked this up on gog over steam. after like 30 tries I just rolled back to v1.05 and cheesed this boss (and the last boss because of how over this game I was). First try,no dmg... I feel like the devs robbed me of the satisfaction of beating the last boss and my desire to ever play this game again due to how much they F'd the design of this boss up 🙁. Shame I was having a blast with this game up to this point too.

[dsorce]

I'm down to learn how to fight the boss but there is no reason to hear the dialog again and again...... Its not a good choice

[Saint - Huesito de chabacano]

What is facerolling? lol xD