Orospina double fight?? who are the 3 figuries below the "penitent one" section in menu?

[Penitent One]

So, today what happend was, i suddenly got suprised by the fight with her, but not because i wasn't expecting a boss around that area....BUT BECAUSE I ALREADY DEFEATED HER.
i was struggling to advance in the story, i tried every passage i can do but nothing managed to work, i defeated many bosses so far, "skeleton guy, samurai blacksmith or what, the big guy with his little guy in front of the giant bell, and OROSPINA" and offcourse the first boss but that doesn't count because basically tutorial boss.

i wasn't be able to advance in the story no matter how much i tried to find something, then randomly got a second fight with her, everything was the same (expect i destroyed her this time ) but this time a cutscene played where people lying on the floor and a winged blood guy was in front then the city in the sky descended and i was be able to progress.

i don't get it, i needed to perform 3 boss kill or what, but i guess the bosses i killed, the skeleton and the samurai blacksmith doesn't count.
as i remember out of the three missing pieces in the menu below the penitent one screen.

right side was orospina, because of the threads i can see her face, the left side is a guy with Nacimiento's hair cut but with beard and after i killed orospina again the middle piece was filled with a picture of the bird guy i mentioned before.


i just don't get it how does this work.

sorry until i get translator mod for this game i need to frustrate with you with this but this bothers me and wonder if anybody encountered something.
Imagine the same but without not visiting orospina's lair, never gonna advance in the story

[domuinor2]

That's really weird, anyway the 3 faces are the 3 "pillars" of Anon(the temple over the city)
Those are the Preceptor(the big skeleton), Orospina, and the big penitent(Lesmer I think) with the little girl, you must defeat them for enter the temple, the other bosses gives you keys for the doves and open other areas.

[PixelDemise]

It seems like a pretty major bug. Whenever you defeat the last remaining boss of the first 3 bosses marked on the minimap(The skeleton dude, Orospina, and the fire bell dude that turns into a double boss), that cutscene will play of the City held by the statues descending back down to the ground. Each of those three bosses reveal some of the backstory behind what caused the Miracle Child to appear in the sky, and by defeating each one, you reveal the shame and guilt of the Father, Mother, and Child, which literally weighs their statue down and makes the upper City lower back to the ground.

The Blacksmith guy(he's actually based on Knife Sharpeners in Spain) isn't a mandatory boss just yet, but he guards the double jump upgrade, so eventually you do need to kill him. You're "intended" to beat him after you reach the top of the new city section, though you can also kill him super early and get the double jump to sequence break some stuff early on.

By any chance, did you quit the game after defeating Orospina for the first time, or have the game crash/power go out or anything? The game only saves when you stop at a Prie Dieu, meaning if you beat her, then went around doing stuff before quitting and didn't rest at a Prie Dieu, it wouldn't have saved your first victory. Otherwise, it seems like a bug, the game didn't properly register that you beat her for some reason, so you had to beat her again.

[derw4tz]

one important thing: If you port back to the city it does NOT save.

so you probably beat her, ported to town and then exited the game

its pretty unintuitiv

[Penitent One]

Originally posted by derw4tz:

one important thing: If you port back to the city it does NOT save.

so you probably beat her, ported to town and then exited the game

its pretty unintuitiv

thats what i am thinking, because i remember when i beated her, instantly checked the area the right side was nothing just tear of atonament and i clearly remember the locked gate which i opened hitting the lock with bleeding miracle and there .....well from there i can't remember but maybe i quit or something i am not sure because at that point i was tired.

[Penitent One]

Originally posted by domuinor2:

That's really weird, anyway the 3 faces are the 3 "pillars" of Anon(the temple over the city)
Those are the Preceptor(the big skeleton), Orospina, and the big penitent(Lesmer I think) with the little girl, you must defeat them for enter the temple, the other bosses gives you keys for the doves and open other areas.

i thaught the 3 main must bosses for the city are someone else instead the Big Skeleton guy.
so i defeated all 3 of them just something messed up seems like, until this information i was afraid i missed 1 boss and thanks to this bug (if it is) the city descended after 2


thanks

[Penitent One]

Originally posted by PixelDemise:

It seems like a pretty major bug. Whenever you defeat the last remaining boss of the first 3 bosses marked on the minimap(The skeleton dude, Orospina, and the fire bell dude that turns into a double boss), that cutscene will play of the City held by the statues descending back down to the ground. Each of those three bosses reveal some of the backstory behind what caused the Miracle Child to appear in the sky, and by defeating each one, you reveal the shame and guilt of the Father, Mother, and Child, which literally weighs their statue down and makes the upper City lower back to the ground.

The Blacksmith guy(he's actually based on Knife Sharpeners in Spain) isn't a mandatory boss just yet, but he guards the double jump upgrade, so eventually you do need to kill him. You're "intended" to beat him after you reach the top of the new city section, though you can also kill him super early and get the double jump to sequence break some stuff early on.

By any chance, did you quit the game after defeating Orospina for the first time, or have the game crash/power go out or anything? The game only saves when you stop at a Prie Dieu, meaning if you beat her, then went around doing stuff before quitting and didn't rest at a Prie Dieu, it wouldn't have saved your first victory. Otherwise, it seems like a bug, the game didn't properly register that you beat her for some reason, so you had to beat her again.

now you mention, the sculptor, when i first talked with him and get some upgrade then walked back to him the whole converstation and everything i done there was reset.

need to mention that before visiting him again i quit and didn't visited any altar.

so probaly something altar saving stuff is bugged or i clearly missed to save by myself with resting.

thanks, next time i gonna keep this in mind.