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and its looks not bad
I've seen that comparison google doc and it doesn't look too bad, can anyone confirm if the quality is actually worth playing with?
I played that leaked zero patch back in 2018 that had MTL and was supposedly "terrible" yet I had zero issues with it and loved the entire thing. Is this at least on par with that?
It looks like someone is working on their own separate patch using their own MTL and editing it which is looking a lot better but no one knows when it will be out
Are you out of your mind? I'm not gonna learn fluent Japanese/Chinese/Korean so I can play one game series in its native language. This isn't the Illiad, its a silly anime game that *will* be released in English eventually, and by the time someone who starts from zero learns enough Chinese to play it in that language the next 2 games will be out in English. MTLE is very bad compared to a translation with work put into it but it is a solution that doesn't require years of dedicated study for 60-90 hours of payoff. Wtf are you talking about.
stop talking nonsense, man
it will take many years to learn JP to the level required to enjoy the game (which means you should easily read and understand more than 90-95% of the text on a screen)
I'm not a native English speaker and rely heavily on it for my work and everyday tasks. Still, it took me more than four years to start enjoying books/movies/games in English. So yeah, I could understand most of the words and grammar from the second year of learning, but it's not fun and not enjoyable to sit with a dictionary and search for 40% of words, then try to combine all this mess into some sentence.
And JP is much more complex than English (scientifically, English => JP is one of the most challenging combos to learn, as they have completely different grammar, rules, literals, etc.).
Most JP games are translated into English (if you are not a fan of erotic visual novels, but you don't need a translation for that kind of thing). Otherwise, they have fan translations to help you.
It's pretty lousy motivation to learn JP only to play a few games =)
If you have a lot of time on your hands - better to learn some popular languages you can use for work/communication/etc.
Such as German/French/Spanish/etc. Most of them are close to English, so it won't take long before you can use them. It took me about 4 months before I started talking with my clients in Swedish. And I could understand more than 60% of what they were telling me.
To compare, I spent the same amount of time learning JP (12+ hours per week), and after two years, I can only understand basic sentences, read simple texts, and guess the meaning of complex phrases.
Maybe you are some genius who can learn JP in 10 days, spending 5 minutes per day. But most people are NOT.
P.S. I was able to finish Tokyo Xanadu partially in JP (somehow). But still, I was switching languages constantly because my head was spinning after 1+ hours of deciphering a bunch of JP dialogues. And it was not fun; it was not enjoyable. And it was terrible for educational purposes. I did learn nothing. Just put a lot of new words/sentences in my Anki. So I know what I'm talking about; you need excellent knowledge to play such text-heavy games.
an now I feel like your inability to understand what you are reading is your problem dude)
1. I didn't say English isn't complex. Read again.
2. Glad you saw so many people with an excellent level of JP. Sadly, most people who come to Japan and learn in this perfect environment still struggle after many years of learning. That's the funniest thing I heard in my life. You made my day, really. Maybe you could introduce those people to us? So we can laugh all together.
3. "you'd be surprised how many JP games are not translated, even visuals novels" - I don't care one bit about indie visual novels, really. All popular series are translated (or at least have translation patches). Talk about your unknown visual novels with someone else. We don't care =)
Do you have a working link to the MTL?
And you have to be aware of cultural differences and know many of them by heart to properly understand Japanese.
But the biggest problem and the reason why these games are not enjoyable when playing in Japanese is that there is hardly any dub and you have to rely on reading Kanjis you don’t know… When I try to write some Kanjis from memory, these sometimes appear mirror-inverted…
So just to say „Learn Japanese“ with completely different characters makes the thing to easy. The effort you have to take in is extremely high - and to reach B2 level takes four times longer than in English. I am natively speaking German - which nearly is identical to English and it took me also ten years to reach C2-level (but still making a lot more mistakes than native English speakers)
Of course)… so it is nearly impossible for an average learner to reach a natively fluent level of Japanese in his whole life.
True, the link doesn't work. Mega.nz used to be good but now it's one of the worst file hosters. I selected "download all as zip" and I got like 4kb/s download speed on it. I thought that maybe the website is having problems, so I tried again the next day and still got literal dial up download speeds. I tried using a VPN just to see if my ISP was throttling this website (unlikely, but possible), and it's still 4kb/s download.
Someone needs to tell the people on 4chan to reupload that ♥♥♥♥ to a better file hoster, because mega.nz is beyond useless.
Use the mega app and it'll download much faster.
I tried that and it works, so if anyone else can't download from the link, try the app.