JR EAST Train Simulator

JR EAST Train Simulator

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Cracrayol Nov 10, 2023 @ 10:03am
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JRETS English guide
I've published an english version of my JR East Train Simulator guide. The "Lines" part is still missing but will be available in the next days.

https://bookstack.cracrayol.org/books/jr-east-train-simulator-english
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suzu Nov 27, 2023 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by Welkin von Oberstein:
Originally posted by Cracrayol:
Yellow circle with one diagonal black stripe (惰行標): Seems to be an indicator that tells the driver to stop accelerating and switch to coasting.

Yellow triangle with a number inside in a black circle (信号喚呼位置標): This sign indicates the point where you should confirm and call out the next traffic light. (translated from wikipedia JP)

Found the informations here : https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%89%84%E9%81%93%E6%A8%99%E8%AD%98

Interesting, thank you very much for the information and the link.

In that wikipedia article there is a reference to a sign, 力行標 ,"power running mark" translated with google. It is a white circle with black border. Is it the fourth Dead section signal mentioned in the guide?

There are two very confusing signs. Image taken from the sign's manufacturer's catalog.
https://imgur.com/mYuhLog

The catalog is here.[www.hoan-supply.co.jp]

I found someone doing a survey of various locations regarding the alignment of dead section signs.
http://deadsection.image.coocan.jp/dead_sec/secsign/secsign.htm

The difference between a "coasting sign" and a "dead section ahead sign" is ambiguous.
Last edited by suzu; Nov 27, 2023 @ 12:20pm
ml2512hvp40cf Nov 27, 2023 @ 10:00pm 
I propose to add "Additional information on signals and signs" produced by Mr. suzu to the JRETS English and French guide.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2111630/discussions/0/4034724778662578730/
Thank you again, suzu.
Originally posted by suzu:
Originally posted by Welkin von Oberstein:

Interesting, thank you very much for the information and the link.

In that wikipedia article there is a reference to a sign, 力行標 ,"power running mark" translated with google. It is a white circle with black border. Is it the fourth Dead section signal mentioned in the guide?

There are two very confusing signs. Image taken from the sign's manufacturer's catalog.
https://imgur.com/mYuhLog

The catalog is here.[www.hoan-supply.co.jp]

I found someone doing a survey of various locations regarding the alignment of dead section signs.
http://deadsection.image.coocan.jp/dead_sec/secsign/secsign.htm

The difference between a "coasting sign" and a "dead section ahead sign" is ambiguous.
Thank you very much for the information you have shared. Certainly, the similarity between these two signals can create confusion.

The "power running" sign may have a different use than indicating the end of a dead section? Is it used in other situations to indicate that acceleration is recommended?
Last edited by Welkin von Oberstein; Nov 28, 2023 @ 7:04am
Cracrayol Nov 28, 2023 @ 7:45am 
I've added the pages for the lines of the Nambu/Tsurumi DLC.

I'll also add some informations based from the guide of suzu (and add the link to the guide).
Last edited by Cracrayol; Nov 28, 2023 @ 2:23pm
suzu Nov 28, 2023 @ 1:50pm 
Originally posted by Welkin von Oberstein:
Originally posted by suzu:

There are two very confusing signs. Image taken from the sign's manufacturer's catalog.
https://imgur.com/mYuhLog

The catalog is here.[www.hoan-supply.co.jp]

I found someone doing a survey of various locations regarding the alignment of dead section signs.
http://deadsection.image.coocan.jp/dead_sec/secsign/secsign.htm

The difference between a "coasting sign" and a "dead section ahead sign" is ambiguous.
Thank you very much for the information you have shared. Certainly, the similarity between these two signals can create confusion.

The "power running" sign may have a different use than indicating the end of a dead section? Is it used in other situations to indicate that acceleration is recommended?

Power running signs are universally seen regardless of dead sections. Places where the train accelerates again due to the long distance between stations. Places where there is an uphill grade. Are seen in places where there is no target view, such as underground.
ml2512hvp40cf Nov 28, 2023 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by Terminology dictionary For Railway and Train:
This sign indicates that the train is allowed to accelerate. There are various designs depending on the railroad company, and some companies do not even have signs.
In the case of DC electrification, this sign may be a guide for safe and ideal operation, but it is not a sign that must be strictly observed because it has no enforcement power and is not more than a guide.
However, in AC electrification, it is an important sign.
In addition to the above basic rules, there is an additional rule: the sign must be placed at the location of the power line sign to indicate that the train is exiting a dead section.
力行を行って良いことを知らせる標識である。鉄道会社によって様々な図柄があり、標識すら設置していない会社もある。JR東日本では、下図の標識である。
直流電化では、この標識を目安に力行を指示すると安全に理想的な運行が行える、かもしれないが、強制力もなく、目安の域を出ないので、絶対厳守な標識ではない。
しかし、交流電化では、重要な標識になる。
上記の基本規則に加えて、力行標識の設置箇所からデッドセクションを脱出することを知らせる標識、という規則も付加される。
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vqv-nNXRinSZWZCkBhj1nh53TGRW06tR_kMuzmi_EGw/edit?usp=sharing
Last edited by ml2512hvp40cf; Nov 28, 2023 @ 2:46pm
Originally posted by suzu:
Originally posted by Welkin von Oberstein:
Thank you very much for the information you have shared. Certainly, the similarity between these two signals can create confusion.

The "power running" sign may have a different use than indicating the end of a dead section? Is it used in other situations to indicate that acceleration is recommended?

Power running signs are universally seen regardless of dead sections. Places where the train accelerates again due to the long distance between stations. Places where there is an uphill grade. Are seen in places where there is no target view, such as underground.

Thank you very much for your concise answer and for the examples provided.
Cracrayol Dec 20, 2023 @ 2:17am 
Added Sobu Line Rapid page.
ml2512hvp40cf Dec 20, 2023 @ 6:13am 
Originally posted by Cracrayol:
Added Sobu Line Rapid page.
The train information system installed in the E217 Series is called MON19, not TIMS.
MON is the previous generation system of TIMS, and when the E217 debuted, it was equipped with an even older system called MON8.
TIMS was developed based on MON8 to simplify the system and improve reliability.
While the early MONs introduced in the late 1980s had only functions to display air conditioning settings, temperatures, and fault locations, TIMS provides speed information, operation schedule management, transmission of operating instructions such as mass control and brake instructions to each car, adjustment of each car's brake load force, commands to open and close doors, air conditioning The system is now used as a multipurpose information route, from temperature control, information management for the Green Suica system, information transmission to the in-train information screens, and in-train broadcasting.
The E235 series, which debuted in 2015, is equipped with INTEROS, a further development of this system.
After TIMS was successively introduced in JR trains, the E217 was also updated to MON19, which has the same performance as TIMS.
Last edited by ml2512hvp40cf; Dec 20, 2023 @ 6:30am
Cracrayol Jan 31, 2024 @ 3:44am 
Added Koumi line page.
I've also mutualized all informations about MON/TIMS/INTEROS screen on one page (instead of having almost the same informations on multiple line's pages).
ml2512hvp40cf Jan 31, 2024 @ 2:31pm 
It would be good to have an explanation about ATS-P(R) on the Koumi Line.

Originally posted by https://kamatetsu2.web.fc2.com/special/26/local.html:
ATS-P(R) is a wireless train control system for regional lines that was introduced on the Koumi Line on October 12, 2020.It is similar to ATACS, but it calculates current position information based on speed sensors and position correction ground equipment on each train and sends it to ground equipment.
The ground equipment uses the collected position information to set the course of the single-track blocked section and to secure or release the blockage.
It also calculates and transmits train control information (stop point information) for each train. Each train generates a brake pattern based on the received train control information, and emergency brakes are applied if the train exceeds the speed limit.

 The major difference between ATS-P(R) and ATACS is that ATS-P(R) has its own base stations but limits the wireless communication area to the vicinity of major stations.
The speed limiting function for curves, etc., is controlled based on the location information of ground units and on-board databases. The track circuit system remains in place at stations, but the driver's handling of departure requests has been eliminated.

 Since ground signals are used instead of in-train signaling, operation is performed according to signal indications as before. In addition, the ATS-P(R) does not instantaneously update the onboard device signals in conjunction with the ground signals, but updates the signals when the ground signals (signal update points) pass by. Therefore, the pattern remains until the passage of the ground terminal.
 The signal message itself is received wirelessly, since the ground terminal is a non-powered ground terminal.

 These features provide the same level of security as ATS-P, as well as cost savings and reduced maintenance by eliminating interlocking devices and signal cables that were dispersed throughout each station.
Cracrayol Mar 26, 2024 @ 9:59am 
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I've added a page for rumoi Line on my jrets guide. I've put a section about how to use the breaking and shifting handles when set to realistic mode.
https://bookstack.cracrayol.org/books/jr-east-train-simulator-english/page/rumoi-line-jr-hokkaido
Last edited by Cracrayol; Mar 26, 2024 @ 10:01am
Cracrayol Apr 24, 2024 @ 5:09am 
Added the Oga line page: https://bookstack.cracrayol.org/books/jr-east-train-simulator-english/page/oga-line

I've also updated the safety systems page to add a section about ATS-S and updated the ATS-P and ATS-Ps sections: https://bookstack.cracrayol.org/books/jr-east-train-simulator-english/page/safety-systems
Cracrayol Oct 11, 2024 @ 12:20am 
I've started updating my guide in order to apply the same structure i've made for the french version :
* The trains and console details are now in a separated chapter
* Add the stations list to the lines pages
Cracrayol Nov 28, 2024 @ 3:10am 
* Ome line added (in guide and line map)
* The stations lists have a JRETS connection columns if you want to plan a route using multiple lines
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