JR EAST Train Simulator

JR EAST Train Simulator

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Cracrayol Nov 10, 2023 @ 10:03am
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JRETS English guide
I've published an english version of my JR East Train Simulator guide. The "Lines" part is still missing but will be available in the next days.

https://bookstack.cracrayol.org/books/jr-east-train-simulator-english
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PsyxAtomik Nov 18, 2023 @ 10:14pm 
Thank you so much for this guide! Especially the train operation and information screens! It explains so many things I've been unable to figure out myself.
Cracrayol Nov 20, 2023 @ 6:07am 
The guide have now the details (except personal opinion) for all the lines currently available.
Very good work, it is an excellent guide

Regarding the signals, there are some in the game that I still haven't managed to decipher, for example:
        
  • Yellow triangle with a number inside in a black circle
        
  • Yellow circle with one diagonal black stripe
Last edited by Welkin von Oberstein; Nov 20, 2023 @ 8:28am
Cracrayol Nov 20, 2023 @ 12:59pm 
Yellow circle with one diagonal black stripe (惰行標): Seems to be an indicator that tells the driver to stop accelerating and switch to coasting.

Yellow triangle with a number inside in a black circle (信号喚呼位置標): This sign indicates the point where you should confirm and call out the next traffic light. (translated from wikipedia JP)

Found the informations here : https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%89%84%E9%81%93%E6%A8%99%E8%AD%98
Originally posted by Cracrayol:
Yellow circle with one diagonal black stripe (惰行標): Seems to be an indicator that tells the driver to stop accelerating and switch to coasting.

Yellow triangle with a number inside in a black circle (信号喚呼位置標): This sign indicates the point where you should confirm and call out the next traffic light. (translated from wikipedia JP)

Found the informations here : https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%89%84%E9%81%93%E6%A8%99%E8%AD%98

Interesting, thank you very much for the information and the link.

In that wikipedia article there is a reference to a sign, 力行標 ,"power running mark" translated with google. It is a white circle with black border. Is it the fourth Dead section signal mentioned in the guide?
Cracrayol Nov 21, 2023 @ 12:45am 
Yes, it's this one (and currently, only Joban line have dead sections).
ml2512hvp40cf Nov 21, 2023 @ 12:52am 
Learn more about Japanese railroad signaling here.↓
https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E3%81%AE%E9%89%84%E9%81%93%E4%BF%A1%E5%8F%B7

Learn more about Japanese railroad signs here.↓
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%89%84%E9%81%93%E6%A8%99%E8%AD%98

I also posted some additional matters for the guide in this thread.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2111630/discussions/0/3884976984036739762/
Last edited by ml2512hvp40cf; Nov 21, 2023 @ 12:55am
ml2512hvp40cf Nov 21, 2023 @ 3:40am 
Regarding realistic driving, if you can practice "economy driving" and "single-step braking and stair slackening", you will be closer to reality.
E233 has features like cruise control, but they are rarely used in practice.
Originally posted by http://club103.kokuden.com/unten-riron/index02.htm:
Basically, economic operation is said to be theoretically most efficient when the vehicle is brought up to a certain speed at a relatively high acceleration, then cruises at a constant speed, then shifts to coasting, and finally stops at maximum deceleration force.
The period during which current flows through the motor before it shifts to coasting is called "power run," and the power run ratio is a guideline that indicates how much time is spent in this power run relative to the time until the train comes to a stop.
 In the case of the Keihin-Tohoku Line, there is a simulation showing that a power factor of about 35% is efficient when the power consumption of the 103 Series is calculated from the notch curve.
Even if the power factor is increased unnecessarily, it will only waste electricity, but in reality, the effect is only to shorten the time by about 10 seconds.
However, for that 10 seconds, it is necessary to increase the number of electric cars in the train, and in some cases, to increase the number of electric cars in the train, etc. If there is enough money, anything is possible, but to achieve a relatively high effect (VE effect) within a limited budget, an economic operation simulation based on operation theory is always necessary.
It would be nice if the game could also show the driving curve, but unfortunately this is not expected, so it would be good to refer to videos on YouTube that show driving scenes.

Next, regarding "single-stage braking and stairway loosening," this describes the way of braking operation at a stop.

Originally posted by https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q1490337489:
I am a former driver.

When handling the brake, the operation method of handling the brake valve handle or brake notch so that the required brake force can be obtained in one operation is called "one-step braking.
Conversely, when loosening the brake or reducing the brake force, handling the brake notch in a single operation is called "one-step loosening" or "one-step discharging," while gradually loosening the brake in several steps is called "stair-step loosening" or "stair-step discharging.

Due to differences in vehicle performance and individual railroad companies' concepts, there is also a "two-stage braking" method.

As you may have noticed, it is impossible to adjust to the stopping position by "one-step braking and one-step loosening" in the normal braking procedure when stopping at a station, because it is necessary to adjust to the designated stopping position.

In addition, in braking operations, once the brake force is eased and then increased again, this is not called "2-step braking" but "repeated braking", etc. Except for special cases such as linearity and speed limits, "repeated braking" more than twice in stop braking is considered to be a form of "bad braking". It falls into this category.

For example, if the brake notch is
4→6→5→3→1
is "two-step braking and staircase loosening," but if you treat it as
4→6→4→5...
it is called "repetitive braking".
Although the restrictions vary from railroad company to railroad company, if the brakes are used repeatedly in the skill assessment, points will be deducted.

There is a reason why there are various restrictions on how to operate the brakes.
In the case of older types of vehicles, repeated braking more than once may result in insufficient braking force or uncertainty in the adjustment of braking force.
Also, especially noticeable in the case of cast iron brake pads, the lower the speed, the greater the coefficient of friction, so if a large brake force is applied just before stopping, there will be a large shock when the vehicle comes to a stop.
Or, when the speed is low.

Frictional force between wheel and brake pad > adhesive force between wheel tread and rail surface

and there was also concern about sliding.
Therefore, in the case of stop brakes, "stairway loosening" must be done.

Lastly, to spill a bit of gossip, recent vehicles can handle repetitive braking with normal braking force, which is why repetitive braking is so noticeable to young drivers.
I am of the generation that has honed their craftsmanship. I am somewhat disappointed as a member of a generation that has honed its craftsmanship.

In reality, the driver operates the brakes by sensing the vibrations and G's transmitted from the seat, which seems to be difficult even for real drivers because they have to make judgments based only on the images in the simulator.
You may find the following video helpful.
https://youtu.be/YdDJvrDZ4r8?si=VQZNHkt0R0B02bLE
https://youtu.be/hKgxqozM5e0?si=ihGlKg2T59BAwTan
Last edited by ml2512hvp40cf; Nov 21, 2023 @ 4:00am
Cracrayol Nov 22, 2023 @ 5:41am 
I've added a small section about "Air section" in the "Realistic driving" page of the guide.
Randorian Nov 25, 2023 @ 1:33am 
Thank you for this guide - super helpful!
suzu Nov 25, 2023 @ 7:41pm 
Realistic driving, bottom of Other signals. For signs with black diagonal lines on a yellow background (停車場接近標): These signs are installed at stations without home signals. They are not installed at stations with home signals. Stations without signals are called "stops[en.wikipedia.org](停留場)" in JR, not stations. (I believe German railroads have a similar classification.)
Last edited by suzu; Nov 25, 2023 @ 9:27pm
Cracrayol Nov 27, 2023 @ 2:52am 
Originally posted by suzu:
Realistic driving, bottom of Other signals. For signs with black diagonal lines on a yellow background (停車場接近標): These signs are installed at stations without home signals.
It's fixed. Thx.
KajFlo Nov 27, 2023 @ 6:11am 
Originally posted by Cracrayol:
Originally posted by suzu:
Realistic driving, bottom of Other signals. For signs with black diagonal lines on a yellow background (停車場接近標): These signs are installed at stations without home signals.
It's fixed. Thx.

Do you know what "DtNS" means? It is used in the Drivers Guide for example on the Joban Line.
Originally posted by Cracrayol:
Yes, it's this one (and currently, only Joban line have dead sections).

Could that signal be somewhere other than at the end of a dead section? I think I have found the signal in a normal section on the Joban line and Yamanote line (but I'm not sure).

Links to the exact locations of the signal that i have found:
https://youtu.be/nck7udsO4Ts?feature=shared&t=627
https://youtu.be/SEZ17_bAvos?feature=shared&t=3470
suzu Nov 27, 2023 @ 10:29am 
Originally posted by KajFlo:
Do you know what "DtNS" means? It is used in the Drivers Guide for example on the Joban Line.
It seems to stand for "Distance to Next Station."
I didn't know what you were talking about until I looked at the spreadsheet.
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