Problem tracing platform puzzles from the tower

[6StringJazzer]

There are four puzzles that you solve on the ground by walking on glass platforms to trace out the path. There are display panels that show the puzzle to be solved, but things are complicated by obstructions when you actually try to walk the paths.

Once you solve a puzzle on the ground, it opens the door to the next puzzle. Even if you reset the puzzle to re-solve it, the door will stay open. Once a puzzle is solved, you can walk across the panels as a shortcut to wherever you are going without disturbing the solution.

I solved the first one with no problem. Then from the tower (you have to solve all four garden mazes to gain access to the tower) you can trace out the glass puzzles by tracing them like environment puzzles. I had to solve the first one again to resolve the obstructions when seen from the tower. But I cannot figure out the second one.

Here is the solution to the second one that works on the ground:

screenshot here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=847185158

But when viewed from the tower, there are obstructions (pillars, blackout blot on one panel) that seem to make it impossible to do this puzzle both on the ground and from the tower.

Screenshot here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=847185348

In this shot, the ink blot prevents you from tracing that path from the tower. (If you walked

I cannot find a path that solves the panel, avoids the obstructions, and allows tracing from the tower. Has anyone solved this? Is it even important to be able to trace these from the tower?

[eys]

Your current answer is extremely close to the correct solution so that you can solve it from the tower.

Put those two screenshots side by side, what can be changed?

[6StringJazzer]

Thanks for your quick reply--I am still stewing over this. I have sketched a diagram of the grid with gaps where the blockages are both on the ground and as seen from the tower but I still cannot find a valid tracing that works for both. I'll keep trying!!

[eys]

Originally posted by 6StringJazzer:

Thanks for your quick reply--I am still stewing over this. I have sketched a diagram of the grid with gaps where the blockages are both on the ground and as seen from the tower but I still cannot find a valid tracing that works for both. I'll keep trying!!

No problem!

Don't over think it, your answer is VERY close to being right, it just needs one little change.

(And it's okay for the line to be slightly covered by something, you still will be able to trace it.)

[Catgirl Jessica]

Originally posted by 6StringJazzer:

Thanks for your quick reply--I am still stewing over this. I have sketched a diagram of the grid with gaps where the blockages are both on the ground and as seen from the tower but I still cannot find a valid tracing that works for both. I'll keep trying!!

Maybe you are assuming something is a blockage when it in fact isn't one. The only blockages are obstructions or ink splotches, but not something minor like a shadow.

Originally posted by 6StringJazzer:

Is it even important to be able to trace these from the tower?

I assume what you're asking is, is it even important to solve the environmental puzzles? The answer to that question is a spoiler, and probably not something you want to know at this point.

[Pckables]

If it helps, redraw the puzzle on a piece of paper, but erase the obstructed sections.

[6StringJazzer]

Pckables, I did exactly that (see post #2) and I must just have a mental block, or perhaps I've made an error someplace. (I resorted to looking at a full walkthrough, but the one I checked did not even mention these puzzles as environment puzzles and the solution he showed was the same as my initial one that is not traceable from the tower).

[eys]

Originally posted by 6StringJazzer:

Pckables, I did exactly that (see post #2) and I must just have a mental block, or perhaps I've made an error someplace. (I resorted to looking at a full walkthrough, but the one I checked did not even mention these puzzles as environment puzzles and the solution he showed was the same as my initial one that is not traceable from the tower).

Maybe you think the correct solution can't be right?

In your intial answer, what is one small change you can make to it that doesn't completely alter the way most of your solution looks?

[Catgirl Jessica]

Originally posted by 6StringJazzer:

Pckables, I did exactly that (see post #2) and I must just have a mental block, or perhaps I've made an error someplace. (I resorted to looking at a full walkthrough, but the one I checked did not even mention these puzzles as environment puzzles and the solution he showed was the same as my initial one that is not traceable from the tower).

If you're just looking for the solution at this point: https://s27.postimg.org/p3qzmakib/solution.png

[6StringJazzer]

I finally got the solution to this, although with a bit of a cheat. I looked at the solution in one of the guides, but still couldn't figure out how you could trace that path by walking on the squares. I finally figured out that you have to solve this puzzle TWICE. Once using any solution to complete the path and unlock the subsequent puzzles. Then, you have to return to the puzzle, reset it, and walk from the start circle as far as you can until you reach the blockage. Then retrace your steps backwards to leave this puzzle, and walk back through the other puzzles to re-enter this one from the ending point. Then trace the puzzle from the endpoint to where you left off earlier.

The "Aha" moment to solving these four puzzles is when you walk on the panels, it doesn't matter what order you walk on them. The only thing that matters is what it looks like when you're done, and that the pattern COULD HAVE BEEN traced with a single line following all the applicable rules.