Tracing puzzles, is that it?

[CryptoCrash]

I love puzzle games so I decided to check out some vids on this game before I invested. I currently watching the AH teams 'lets watch'. Is every puzzle a tracing puzzle? because if they are I expect I would get tired of them very quickly.

[inappropriately_gendered_fungus]

They're not tracing puzzles. The puzzles involve you drawing a continuous line from a start point to an end point. There are many different rules that determine how you draw this line. Example: You have a grid that contains black and white squares between the gridlines. You must draw a line from the starting point that divides the groups of black and white squares so that they're put in closed-off sections.

[Moleculor]

Every puzzle is a maze. However, some mazes get crazy complicated, even though they're still only a (for example) 6x5 grid of lines. You have to hold multiple sets of rules in your head simultaneously and piece them together to figure out how to get from point A to point B.

Yes, every puzzle is a 'tracing puzzle' (so far as I've seen 350+ puzzles in). I've had, at one point, seven different 'tracing puzzles' I've been stumped on *simultaneously*, so they're not all easy.

[CryptoCrash]

Thanks for the responses but it looks a little repetative to me. When I heard it was an open world explorer/puzzle game I was hoping for another Talos Principle. This game also appears to lack a story as well which cant save a bad puzzle game but can make a good puzzle game better. I think I will stick it on my wishlist and wait for a sale. $40 looks like a bit much for what this game has to offer.

[cheshire.panther]

It is basically the same as saying that talos only has puzzles with cubes, lazers and platforms and nothing else. (Technically correct, but that is not the point).

Don't think of lines as puzzles, think of them as the way of interacting with the game. The puzzles actually vary a lot.

[Moleculor]

Originally posted by Sparky1x:

Thanks for the responses but it looks a little repetative to me. When I heard it was an open world explorer/puzzle game I was hoping for another Talos Principle. This game also appears to lack a story as well which cant save a bad puzzle game but can make a good puzzle game better. I think I will stick it on my wishlist and wait for a sale. $40 looks like a bit much for what this game has to offer.

I'm currently at about $2/hour in terms of entertainment (far better than any movie can say), but yes, this is a puzzle game. It's not a story game with puzzles, or GTA with puzzles (it's very similar to Talos Principle, minus the story). It's a game for people who enjoy puzzles. If you don't enjoy puzzles for the sake of puzzles, this likely isn't the game for you.

[Tenka]

Originally posted by Sparky1x:

Thanks for the responses but it looks a little repetative to me. When I heard it was an open world explorer/puzzle game I was hoping for another Talos Principle. This game also appears to lack a story as well which cant save a bad puzzle game but can make a good puzzle game better. I think I will stick it on my wishlist and wait for a sale. $40 looks like a bit much for what this game has to offer.

Trust me on this, I thought the same thing going in. But believe me, there is SO much more than you think is possible on a "simple tracing puzzle". You will need to think outside the box at every turn, and some of these solutions are absolutely mind blowing. If you enjoyed Talos Principle you will enjoy this, its very similar though imo Witness is harder than Talos.

[Tenka]

There is also a "secondary hidden puzzle aspect" to the game: I'll try to keep the spoiler as vague as possible:

It's kind of like easter egg hunting

[vernanonix]

The game is meant to be a challenge. I literally spent like 3 hours trying to figure out a puzzle on my way to the end game, went to sleep, spent another 5 the next day, went to dinner, and spent another hour when I came back and finally figured it out. I've racked up 40 hours of gameplay at least and I've enjoyed about 95% of that time. (I hate the swamp area though just because all the walkways are disjointed.)

It takes about 20 hours or so to actually get through the main game going unguided. And this game is a wonderful experience to go unguided. Part of the challenge in this game is the exploration. Heck, I overlooked an entire area until I saw someone on the boards mention it. And the more you explore, the more you learn, and the more you learn, the more you know to look for, and so it expands upon itself.

It's not a game that's easy to recommed, especially at the price it's at, but if you enjoy these types of games, it's well worth it.

[ForSpareParts]

I loved The Talos Principle, but I'd actually say The Witness has much more interesting puzzles. With Talos, I feel like you pretty quickly understand everything you need to know to solve the game's puzzles. The Witness is different: it requires you to be constantly learning. Despite appearences, it's far more complex.

[HasarD]

I keep saying watching other people play s@cks. I'm glad I didn't stop being interested in this game when I saw Jon playing The Witness' tutorial panels.
About the story, it's not wrapped in a bag. You have to get the pieces together. I'm on my way to finish the main part so I can't say much
Talos has many stuff to read but what about portal? It's still a good game.

[YannFromFrance]

If you consider Talos puzzles as "room" where you move lasers, block distrubtions, rewind time and Portal as Puzzles where you change speed, jump or teleport to go to places.
And if you consider The Witness puzzles as "lines" you can draw.

The diversity of puzzles in this game is so much more !

I guess that because the presentation of this puzzle is simpler people think the game is simpler, yet it's the opposite. The simplicity of the interface allowed the creators far more room to explore.

Again, it's by playing the game (and not watching it on Twitch) more than some tutorials and reaching puzzles you don't understand (in a world you don't understand) in 2 hours (due to Valve refunds) that you can see this.

[vic_viperman]

Save your money OP, this game is very meh but in this day and age, children's trace puzzles are considered 10/10. I weep for humanity.

[Curious Duck]

Originally posted by vic_viperman:

Save your money OP, this game is very meh but in this day and age, children's trace puzzles are considered 10/10. I weep for humanity.

Oh you don't like the game or the developer?

Then leave. The only reason you are here is to try and troll, to seek attention. You are failing so badly my sides are hurting from laughter.

[Drothen]

Originally posted by vic_viperman:

Save your money OP, this game is very meh but in this day and age, children's trace puzzles are considered 10/10. I weep for humanity.

agree.
boring, repetitive, pointless, no story, no lore, no explanation, just lazy game made by lazy dev.
please dont compare real time puzzles with some iphone unlock puzzles. talos principle is the king of the puzzle games.

[Basic]

Originally posted by TRON:

agree.
boring, repetitive, pointless, no story, no lore, no explanation, just lazy game made by lazy dev.
please dont compare real time puzzles with some iphone unlock puzzles. talos principle is the king of the puzzle games.

Says the guy who doesn't even own the game and therefore has no idea what's involved...

I liked this game so much, I bought 2 copies to give as gifts.

The scenery is stunning, the puzzles are brain-rackingly hard (Completed in 23 hours with no hints/guides) and there's a near-endless set of "easter eggs" to hunt for.

The attention to detail is mind blowing