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I don't understand the tetris blocks puzzles
I got stuck on the tutorial area for them so I looked up a guide, it said you have to surround them in the exact shape that they are, so I tried that, still couldn't get past that part of the game, so I looked up the answer instead and it didn't make any sense and I am no closer to understanding the rules for these stupid things. Cam someone please explain them to me? Possibly in more detail than the puzzle rules guide did on steam?
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Piorn Apr 4, 2016 @ 2:14am 
Part of the fun imo is figuring out how the puzzles work, not the solution, bu here I go.

The crux of these are several points.

First, it doesn't matter where the icon in the shape is, it can be on the right or the left or anywhere, as long as the shape is completely closed, which is important!
Secondly, you can combine several of them, and the respective icon doesn't need to be at the place where it could fit, as long as the sum of the spaces and their shape fits like they would be puzzled together. They can't overlap though, and it only counts if the icons are actually inside your shape.
Third, the tilted icon means it can be rotated. That opens up a lot of possibilities especially in combination with other pieces, so you'll have to think.
404_Not_Found Apr 4, 2016 @ 2:35am 
Originally posted by Piorn:
Part of the fun imo is figuring out how the puzzles work, not the solution, bu here I go.

The crux of these are several points.

First, it doesn't matter where the icon in the shape is, it can be on the right or the left or anywhere, as long as the shape is completely closed, which is important!
Secondly, you can combine several of them, and the respective icon doesn't need to be at the place where it could fit, as long as the sum of the spaces and their shape fits like they would be puzzled together. They can't overlap though, and it only counts if the icons are actually inside your shape.
Third, the tilted icon means it can be rotated. That opens up a lot of possibilities especially in combination with other pieces, so you'll have to think.

I still don't really understand, I'm having a hard time picturing this in my head. I do understand what the tilted pieces are for now though which is good to know because I had no idea how I was supposed to deal with that otherwise.

I guess what you're saying is that I don't try to make individual shapes out of these but combine them into one shape and enclose them all in it?

Also, I did spend a lot of time trying to figure these out but after 3 hours all I got for my trouble was a headache.
Pckables Apr 4, 2016 @ 7:49am 
They don't HAVE to be enclosed in a singular space, the pieces just have to be enclosed inside a space along with the tiles that show that tetris piece.

For example, if you have a tile showing a 2x2 block in the bottom left of a 5x5 grid, you have to enclose a 2x2 block in the bottom left because it needs to encompass the related tile.

If you have two tiles showing 2x2 blocks in the bottom left and right of a 5x5 grid, then you encompass both corners with 2x2 blocks. You don't need to have one big singular shape.

Now say in the middle there is a 3 length (Horizontal) tile and a 2x2 tile. The tile showing the 2x2 tiles does not need to have the 2x2 block on it, the 2x2 block just has to be part of the encompassed shape.
As long as the two types of tetris blocks are touching, you can move and combine them in any way you want and encompess both in one big combined shape, just remember the entire shape has to encompass the tiles that show the pieces.
Last edited by Pckables; Apr 4, 2016 @ 7:50am
404_Not_Found Apr 4, 2016 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by Pckables:
They don't HAVE to be enclosed in a singular space, the pieces just have to be enclosed inside a space along with the tiles that show that tetris piece.

For example, if you have a tile showing a 2x2 block in the bottom left of a 5x5 grid, you have to enclose a 2x2 block in the bottom left because it needs to encompass the related tile.

If you have two tiles showing 2x2 blocks in the bottom left and right of a 5x5 grid, then you encompass both corners with 2x2 blocks. You don't need to have one big singular shape.

Now say in the middle there is a 3 length (Horizontal) tile and a 2x2 tile. The tile showing the 2x2 tiles does not need to have the 2x2 block on it, the 2x2 block just has to be part of the encompassed shape.
As long as the two types of tetris blocks are touching, you can move and combine them in any way you want and encompess both in one big combined shape, just remember the entire shape has to encompass the tiles that show the pieces.

You can't "circle" blocks though, at least not that I know of, so how do you encluse a shape that isn't on the edges?

Also, I tried this thing from every angle before - it's an old screenshot but I don't have a reason to retake it seeing as I haven't gotten past this. I just can't think of a way to enclose this shape in the middle with the others. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=623295186
Nazemec Apr 4, 2016 @ 3:42pm 
You can connect multiple shapes together, in the same enclosed area.
Pckables Apr 4, 2016 @ 4:12pm 
If a shape isn't on the edge, then you have to connect it with other shapes so that it IS on the edge.

With the picture you posted, you combine one of the vertical tetris blocks with the horizontal one in the middle (Shift the horizontal one left or right one space so that they touch) and then the vertical one that isn't connected to another block just can get circled seperately.
Depending on which of the two possible solutions you made, the bridge will make the same shape and move to the corresponding platform.

Remember, just because the shape is in the middle does not mean it has to stay perfectly in the middle. It can still move around a bit.
Last edited by Pckables; Apr 4, 2016 @ 8:57pm
Piorn Apr 4, 2016 @ 4:40pm 
That one is the bridge control. The thing in the middle can slide left or right. I love how this game uses little imagery like that.
404_Not_Found Apr 6, 2016 @ 12:53pm 
Ohh, ok that makes sense, this had me stuck for a really long time and I couldn't figure any of the others out because of it. I did fine with every other kind of puzzle I found so far for some reason...
phroggiepuddles Apr 15, 2016 @ 10:58pm 
"Third, the tilted icon means it can be rotated. That opens up a lot of possibilities especially in combination with other pieces, so you'll have to think."

Ahhhh THANK YOU. I resorted to looking them up and most websites were saying they could all be rotated - so I was getting extremely frustrated seeing more than 1 solution but only 1 actually working. Frustrated enough to not return to the game thinking it was partly "broken".
Fumero Apr 23, 2016 @ 9:29am 
The tetris puzzle ate the worst by far.
Tachrayonic Apr 26, 2016 @ 9:13am 
Originally posted by Fumero:
The tetris puzzle ate the worst by far.
The audio puzzles are worst by far. The tetris ones are awesome, but they to take a bit of getting the hang of.
Also, the tetris icon with two sets of vertical lines has two gaps between the lines, not one. Lots of people have been caught on that.
eg.
[X][ ][ ][X]
[X][ ][ ][X]
not
[X][ ][X]
[X][ ][X]
Last edited by Tachrayonic; Apr 26, 2016 @ 9:13am
Piorn Apr 27, 2016 @ 9:20am 
Originally posted by Platoonsgt1:
Originally posted by Fumero:
The tetris puzzle ate the worst by far.
The audio puzzles are worst by far. The tetris ones are awesome, but they to take a bit of getting the hang of.

The audio ones were fine, I personally got to the limit of my capacity at the treehouse ones. I came awfully close to brute-forcing some of them. There were just so many colors and rules.
404_Not_Found Apr 28, 2016 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by Piorn:
Originally posted by Platoonsgt1:
The audio puzzles are worst by far. The tetris ones are awesome, but they to take a bit of getting the hang of.

The audio ones were fine, I personally got to the limit of my capacity at the treehouse ones. I came awfully close to brute-forcing some of them. There were just so many colors and rules.

To be honest, while the treehouse isn't easy, I dont remember getting too frustrated with the color puzzles. I do remember it trying to trick me a lot and having to walk away and come back once.

I am the kind of person who loves music or sound puzzles so I am really interested to find these audio puzzles and see if I can do them.
Nazemec Apr 28, 2016 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by 404_Not_Found:
I am the kind of person who loves music or sound puzzles so I am really interested to find these audio puzzles and see if I can do them.
Well, if you don't find them, they are in the tropical forest, between the temple and the mountain. Don't expect music though. ;-)
Matty101 May 22, 2016 @ 6:50am 
I'm wondering whether the confusion is the puzzles not accepting all correct answers...just past that bridge theres a gate with 2 more puzzles which involve 2 'L' shaped peices...if i solve it as they are it comes back incorrect but if i solve it with them inverted (ie top one on the bottom and bottom one on top) it allows me through.

So maybe peoples perception of how these work is thrown because not all possible solutions are working.
Last edited by Matty101; May 22, 2016 @ 7:04am
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