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Is this rose important in some way?
To the developers (if you're still seeing this after so many years), your game is awesome!

I'm opening this thread just to satisfy a curiosity of mine. After playing the game for the n-th time, I noticed there was a rose inside a cage within the marsh area. This cage is the center one on the puzzle where you have to move the cages up and down before finally getting to the laser.

Not that this game is lacking in vegetation or anything (XD), but I did notice that the rose itself was very detailed and unlike any other plant within the rest of the game (not even the flowers in the greenhouse). Another detail is that this cage has clean walls, which makes it possible to look inside it. Most of the other cages are covered with plants.

This makes me wonder if that rose carries any special meaning or is it just one of the many (many-many-many) "curiosities" found in the world.

It's probably nothing and I'm just overthinking. Thanks anyway for any attention I can get from anyone! ^^

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2485172866

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2485172817

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2485172773
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Pesky May 12, 2021 @ 11:41am 
I'm not a developer.

I can't answer your question, but I advise you to see that flower not as a rose (just because it's red) but as one of the other numerous flowers, and images of flowers, you can see on the island. Many are white. Some are coloured. Many are by themselves. Some are in groups.

So yes, that flower might signify something. And if so, then so do the other flowers.
Last edited by Pesky; May 12, 2021 @ 11:41am
Stephen Maniac May 12, 2021 @ 11:45am 
Originally posted by PeskyTheTroll:
I'm not a developer.

I can't answer your question, but I advise you to see that flower not as a rose (just because it's red) but as one of the other numerous flowers, and images of flowers, you can see on the island. Many are white. Some are coloured. Many are by themselves. Some are in groups.

So yes, that flower might signify something. And if so, then so do the other flowers.

Thank you for your input, PeskyTheTroll! ^^

I sincerely wasn't expecting to receive a response on this at all (XD).
Hairy Phil May 13, 2021 @ 5:32am 
It could be one of the lake's white flowers dyed red by the marsh.
Stephen Maniac May 13, 2021 @ 6:38am 
Originally posted by Hairy Phil:
It could be one of the lake's white flowers dyed red by the marsh.

The model looks different from the lakes lilies. Also, while playing the game today, I came across another flower similar to that. But this time it was on the "village" area, sitting on a fireplace.

I'm starting to think that each "region" may have a flower like this in different colors. Possibly just as another Easter egg. These both seem very unique and placed on spots that makes them stand out. =)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2485878155

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2485878041
Last edited by Stephen Maniac; May 13, 2021 @ 6:52am
Stephen Maniac May 13, 2021 @ 8:32am 
Maybe it's because I'm more aware of them now. But I've been finding more and more of these flowers as I stroll through the island.

Some of them can be reached very closely and I can confirm they are indeed a unique model and necessarily white (aside from the marsh one). I guess I initially looked too much into it. They seems to be a simple part of the scenery in most cases. But I still believe some of them are placed in a way to stand out. Such as the fireplace one and another one on the hair of the giant statue from the side of the mountain (see below).

The red one from the marsh area is another that's quite different due to its color, which I believe is just because of the red water indeed.

All in all, I guess these are all part of the scenery without much mystery behind them. But I'm certain some of them are indeed placed in a way to make them look more important than other flowers.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2485939414

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2485939444

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2485939376

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2485939349

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2485939477

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2485939520
Pesky May 13, 2021 @ 9:10am 
I agree that the red rose that you started this thread with is red because it's set into a red puzzle. See whether you can find a small group of flowers which are different colours to each other. Or a small group of flowers arranged in a particular shape.

You could also search the desert area. You're looking for something that isn't a flower and isn't white. It's right there on the sandy surface, not hidden by anything and not downstairs by the chamber door. You'll know why I think it's relevant when you find it.
Last edited by Pesky; May 13, 2021 @ 9:10am
Pesky May 13, 2021 @ 9:11am 
I assume you know about the lake and what you can find on the surface and underneath it.
Stephen Maniac May 13, 2021 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by PeskyTheTroll:
I agree that the red rose that you started this thread with is red because it's set into a red puzzle. See whether you can find a small group of flowers which are different colours to each other. Or a small group of flowers arranged in a particular shape.

You could also search the desert area. You're looking for something that isn't a flower and isn't white. It's right there on the sandy surface, not hidden by anything and not downstairs by the chamber door. You'll know why I think it's relevant when you find it.

You really got me curious now, Pesky! XD

So far, all these flowers I found seem to be by themselves. Any other flower arrangements in the game is using simpler/different models.

As you suggested, I checked the desert and guess what I found?....Yup, another one! X3

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2486039994

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2486040028

I tried looking for the something you mentioned in the desert. "isn't a flower and isn't white. It's right there on the sandy surface". Could you possibly be meaning the environmental puzzle on the sand surface ? If so I already found it (100% save).

Lastly, about the lake/pond, I know it's a map of the island and the lasers/logs/puzzles are mapped out on it as you discover them . But I never stopped to think about what's underneath it. I'll check that soon once I can get back on the game. Thanks!
Stephen Maniac May 13, 2021 @ 10:18am 
Oh, do you mean the challenge is underneath the lake by any chance?
Pesky May 13, 2021 @ 11:05am 
Okay, you figured out the lake thing. Well done.

You sort-of found the thing in the desert I was talking about. Take a careful look at that board next to that flower.
Stephen Maniac May 13, 2021 @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by PeskyTheTroll:
Okay, you figured out the lake thing. Well done.

You sort-of found the thing in the desert I was talking about. Take a careful look at that board next to that flower.

WOAH! How did I miss that?! XD

Thanks Pesky, that was so cool to find!
Pesky May 13, 2021 @ 12:13pm 
Now imagine you'd just posted about the red flower and I answered by telling you to think about the connection between the red flower and that board. (I didn't notice the board myself when I played. Somebody had to tell me to look at it like I told you.)
Stephen Maniac May 13, 2021 @ 12:25pm 
It's amazing how this game can still provide new experiences even after replaying it for so long. Hands down one of my favorite games! =)
Contracrostics May 14, 2021 @ 7:22pm 
Also, in the course of the game, what happens to the flower and why? There may be other philosophical implications for the flower. I think so, at least.
Contracrostics May 14, 2021 @ 7:23pm 
I believe this is different from the white flowers, also.
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