The Great War: Western Front™

The Great War: Western Front™

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Marchisio Aug 25, 2022 @ 4:15am
Playable Countries?
In the description of the game it says that it will cover the 1st World War Western Front. Which countries exactly will be included in the game? Can you give clear information?
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Hey there! You will be able to play as either the Allies or the Central Powers, complete with additional supporting nations. Keep an eye on here or our social channels for updates as we go!
Turtler Sep 4, 2022 @ 10:02am 
To expand on that, my understanding is that playing is more or less split down the middle into two, not so much playing on the level of "individual nations" but on the sides, with you choosing to select either the Central Powers or the (Wester) Allies/ (Western) Entente.

It's below that that we really get into the question of "which countries."

The Central Powers are easy enough to guess. It is basically going to be 90%+ or more Germany, Germany, Germany. Which fits history. There IS however some room for shifting or the like, especially since there were fairly significant (if few) Habsburg units on the Western Front (most notable at the start and end of the war), so you might have some Austro-Hungarians to play around.

It's with the Allies that we really open Pandora's box. The obvious, bare minimum would be Britain and France. However even those two are pretty diverse, since in addition to troops from the Metropolitan homeland of both countries you also have a significant amount of troops from the Colonies and Dominions, such as Canadians, Newfoundlanders (itself a rare one), Indians, and so on fighting under the British and Senegalese, Caribbean soldiers, and others under the French.

But also likely are the Belgians (who were the epicenter of the early attack and would remain the cockpit of much of the war), and the US. I also think there is a better-than-par chance of the Italians showing up, since they did serve in quite a few numbers on the Western Front starting mid war and were quite important in things like the final battles of the war in the West.

For the more exotic, there are the Portuguese, and maybe the not-so-Western of the Allies like the Russian Expeditionary Force.

So I would guess:

* British
* French
* Belgians
* US
* (Maybe?) Italians.
Last edited by Turtler; Sep 4, 2022 @ 10:17am
soupbun Sep 4, 2022 @ 9:33pm 
The Central Powers had more diversity than just Germany and Austria-Hungary. What about the Ottomans and the Bulgarians and the colonial holdings?
Turtler Sep 5, 2022 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by soupbun:
The Central Powers had more diversity than just Germany and Austria-Hungary. What about the Ottomans and the Bulgarians and the colonial holdings?

TL:DR, those didn't show up on the Western Front much. IIRC the Bulgarians did send a sizable number of their pilots to fly missions on the Western Front but that was basically it, while the Ottomans had their own multi front conflicts to face (and indeed got German and Habsburg support in places like Sinai), . The Habsburgs had a much more sizable footprint on the Western Front than many people realize, but it was still very much a series of footnotes.
Chancelier Allemand Oct 14, 2022 @ 12:13pm 
France was 80% of the allies
Turtler Oct 14, 2022 @ 1:04pm 
Originally posted by I've Rare From By God:
France was 80% of the allies

Not really. It was the single most important of the factions on the Western Front, but it only ever came CLOSE to being 80% in the first year of the war, and after that its share dropped significantly (mostly due to the BEF being enlarged).
lyonsajh Oct 20, 2022 @ 2:20am 
Originally posted by Turtler:
Originally posted by I've Rare From By God:
France was 80% of the allies

Not really. It was the single most important of the factions on the Western Front, but it only ever came CLOSE to being 80% in the first year of the war, and after that its share dropped significantly (mostly due to the BEF being enlarged).



Not exactly true. The French in 1915 still held large % of the front until late 1915. French army had 3,6m active soldiers at the start of the war and by July 1916 2,23m.
Turtler Oct 20, 2022 @ 2:29am 
Originally posted by lyonsajh:

Not exactly true. The French in 1915 still held large % of the front until late 1915. French army had 3,6m active soldiers at the start of the war and by July 1916 2,23m.

I never claimed they didn't hold a large % of the front or that they didn't field a vast number of men, indeed I agree they were the single largest Western Allied force on the Western Front.

But after 1914 it was never anything like 80% of the troops.
Turtler Dec 1, 2022 @ 12:52pm 
All Right, for what it is worth I am updating this post for what it tells us about the Nations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoZ3aKKpDvQ

From about 0:30-0:35, you can see American, British, and French flags at the bottom. That tells us those nations will be in the game, or at least their units will be and will get distinguished.

This gets reinforced by what you see from about 2:40-2:44, where you have more Allied flags

Not just the British, French, and Americans like what we saw earlier, but also

* Belgian,

* Australian (somewhat anachronistically; the Blue Ensign of Australia wasn't that common militarily yet),

and two red ensigns that I believe are Canada and India.

This seems to be confirmed in this video at about 2:45-2:50, which has an event about "Canadian Raiders" or "Canadian Infantry" and features one of the Red Ensigns in teh lower left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U1GSG1k2fA

So I'm pretty sure the number of confirmed nations we've seen in game can be seen as

1. Germany (No Duh),

2. Britain

3. France.

4. The US.

5. Belgium.

6. Canada.

7. India.

8. Australia (ANZACs?)

This is a good bunch and more than I had hoped for at least. But some conspicuous missing ones are

1. Italy (on the Western Allied side)

2. Portugal (Ditto)

3. Austria-Hungary (on the Central Side).
Last edited by Turtler; Dec 8, 2022 @ 9:02pm
Nedly Dedly Jan 11, 2023 @ 12:03pm 
Originally posted by Turtler:
All Right, for what it is worth I am updating this post for what it tells us about the Nations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoZ3aKKpDvQ

From about 0:30-0:35, you can see American, British, and French flags at the bottom. That tells us those nations will be in the game, or at least their units will be and will get distinguished.

This gets reinforced by what you see from about 2:40-2:44, where you have more Allied flags

Not just the British, French, and Americans like what we saw earlier, but also

* Belgian,

* Australian (somewhat anachronistically; the Blue Ensign of Australia wasn't that common militarily yet),

and two red ensigns that I believe are Canada and India.

This seems to be confirmed in this video at about 2:45-2:50, which has an event about "Canadian Raiders" or "Canadian Infantry" and features one of the Red Ensigns in teh lower left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U1GSG1k2fA

So I'm pretty sure the number of confirmed nations we've seen in game can be seen as

1. Germany (No Duh),

2. Britain

3. France.

4. The US.

5. Belgium.

6. Canada.

7. India.

8. Australia (ANZACs?)

This is a good bunch and more than I had hoped for at least. But some conspicuous missing ones are

1. Italy (on the Western Allied side)

2. Portugal (Ditto)

3. Austria-Hungary (on the Central Side).
Don't forget New Zealanders. We need kiwis too. Either as a part of ANZAC, as New Zealand Expeditionary Force or both. Also really hope that they will add Portuguese and Gurkhas.
Last edited by Nedly Dedly; Jan 11, 2023 @ 12:04pm
Turtler Jan 11, 2023 @ 4:26pm 
Originally posted by Nedly Dedly:
Don't forget New Zealanders. We need kiwis too. Either as a part of ANZAC, as New Zealand Expeditionary Force or both. Also really hope that they will add Portuguese and Gurkhas.

Fair indeed, and good points. Was just going off of what I saw.
Nedly Dedly Jan 12, 2023 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by Turtler:
Originally posted by Nedly Dedly:
Don't forget New Zealanders. We need kiwis too. Either as a part of ANZAC, as New Zealand Expeditionary Force or both. Also really hope that they will add Portuguese and Gurkhas.

Fair indeed, and good points. Was just going off of what I saw.
Not sure what you mean. I was talking about those who it would be nice to see. I am also wondering whether Australians seen in the video are ANZACs or the First Australian Imperial Force.
AG Mar 27, 2023 @ 2:56am 
Originally posted by Francesca Frontier:
Hey there! You will be able to play as either the Allies or the Central Powers, complete with additional supporting nations. Keep an eye on here or our social channels for updates as we go!

The allies were under French high comman, yet it seems the games portrays the english to be in charge ? How come ?
Turtler Mar 27, 2023 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by AG:

The allies were under French high comman,

No, not really.

Allied "High Command" only existed from mid 1918 onwards, as a result of reactions to the Kaiser's Battle.

And while its head Generalissimo Foch was French, that wasn't the Allies bowing down to kneel before the throne of the French and pledge vassalage. Foch was acting as Generalissimo in a newly created role integrated with but separate from the French military, sort of like Eisenhower in WWII.

Originally posted by AG:
yet it seems the games portrays the english to be in charge ? How come ?

I agree the iconography (especially in the unit discs) I do think overstates the British influence and understates that of the French, let alone the other Western Allies like the Americans, Belgians, and so forth. All the more jarring because we've only played late war battles, and indeed had the tutorial center around the newly arrived AEF.
AG Mar 27, 2023 @ 1:14pm 
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Originally posted by Turtler:
Originally posted by AG:

The allies were under French high comman,

No, not really.

Allied "High Command" only existed from mid 1918 onwards, as a result of reactions to the Kaiser's Battle.

And while its head Generalissimo Foch was French, that wasn't the Allies bowing down to kneel before the throne of the French and pledge vassalage. Foch was acting as Generalissimo in a newly created role integrated with but separate from the French military, sort of like Eisenhower in WWII.

Originally posted by AG:
yet it seems the games portrays the english to be in charge ? How come ?

I agree the iconography (especially in the unit discs) I do think overstates the British influence and understates that of the French, let alone the other Western Allies like the Americans, Belgians, and so forth. All the more jarring because we've only played late war battles, and indeed had the tutorial center around the newly arrived AEF.


Regarding your first point that's not my point, operationnal and tactical command of the allies was under the french, it doesnt mean anything in term of "vassalge" or else that's ludicrous. That was true before 1917 and even more so with Foch and 1918. Since the game include the Us, who only saw actions in this time frame again its weird to portray the allies to be representated by Mongomery/an english officer.
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