F.E.A.R.
jonpol 2013 年 7 月 30 日 下午 4:27
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Restore 3D Positional Surround Sound
I've been working on a project to restore positional audio in older games when playing them using Windows Vista or later. I call it "IndirectSound", and it can be found here:

http://www.indirectsound.com

I actually started working on it after playing F.E.A.R. and realizing that it no longer had surround sound with my new audio setup. Now that I have it working, though, I can finally play F.E.A.R. using all 7.1 speakers :)

If anyone has surround speakers that haven't been working with F.E.A.R. (or other older games) I'd be really interested for you to try it out and give me feedback if it works on other machines or not. I started it as a personal project, but I imagine there must be other people like me who still enjoy playing older games but miss the surround sound in some of them.
最后由 jonpol 编辑于; 2013 年 7 月 30 日 下午 4:28
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jonpol 2018 年 10 月 22 日 下午 12:41 
Thanks, and you're welcome! I'm happy to be in a position to contribute a small part of keeping older games alive. Progress on IndirectSound has unfortunately slowed over the years, but improvements and bug fixes do still happen occasionally :praisesun:
TehSpoopyKitteh 2018 年 10 月 22 日 下午 4:42 
If you are using RealTek....use 3d Sound Back.

If you are using a Creative product, use Alchemy.

Some games require you to use the analog 3.5mm jacks to get surround sound, so if your device is not able to encode that audio and transmit it over a single line, or if your home theater system doesn't have that option to use analog input for each of the 6 or more channels needed for surround sound, you will still get 2 chanel PCM without some sort of encoding like DolbyDigital Live or DTS Connect.

Please note the ain order to get full surround sound, EAX2 must be enabled. For whatever reason you will not get 3D positinal audio without EAX options being turned due to how they game is programmed.
最后由 TehSpoopyKitteh 编辑于; 2018 年 10 月 23 日 上午 5:32
Solid Snake <BaTz> 2018 年 11 月 16 日 下午 4:38 
引用自 jonpol
Thanks, and you're welcome! I'm happy to be in a position to contribute a small part of keeping older games alive. Progress on IndirectSound has unfortunately slowed over the years, but improvements and bug fixes do still happen occasionally :praisesun:

JonPol, I luckily stumbled upon this thread while Googling how to enable 5.1 in F.E.A.R - all I can say is, "Thank you, thank you, thank you!" Successfully restored 5.1/EAX in F.E.A.R and Diablo II. The next test will be S.T.A.L.K.E.R (these game names full of periods :-D).
最后由 Solid Snake <BaTz> 编辑于; 2018 年 11 月 16 日 下午 4:38
MUSHcom 2019 年 2 月 15 日 上午 7:09 
Works like a charm! Thanks for this! It was bumming me out that i couldn't hear it in 5.1 (that's after I found the fix for the FPS problem.) It really does sound perfect now!
jonpol 2019 年 2 月 16 日 上午 11:28 
引用自 MUSHcom
Works like a charm! Thanks for this! It was bumming me out that i couldn't hear it in 5.1 (that's after I found the fix for the FPS problem.) It really does sound perfect now!
Glad it's working! You found it at a good time; there was a long-standing bug that was just fixed in a release on Tuesday :D
ExcessiveGBH 2019 年 4 月 10 日 上午 6:44 
引用自 Teh Spoopy Kitteh
If you are using RealTek....use 3d Sound Back.

If you are using a Creative product, use Alchemy.

Some games require you to use the analog 3.5mm jacks to get surround sound, so if your device is not able to encode that audio and transmit it over a single line, or if your home theater system doesn't have that option to use analog input for each of the 6 or more channels needed for surround sound, you will still get 2 chanel PCM without some sort of encoding like DolbyDigital Live or DTS Connect.

Please note the ain order to get full surround sound, EAX2 must be enabled. For whatever reason you will not get 3D positinal audio without EAX options being turned due to how they game is programmed.

I have a Sound Blaster Audigy Rx and using Alchemy still has EAX greyed out but Far Cry EAX is working.
Using analog 3.5mm jacks option.
Have you any tips to get FEAR working?
IndirectSound works but causing game stuttering.
JZStudios 2019 年 4 月 19 日 下午 12:10 
引用自 ExcessiveGBH
引用自 Teh Spoopy Kitteh
If you are using RealTek....use 3d Sound Back.

If you are using a Creative product, use Alchemy.

Some games require you to use the analog 3.5mm jacks to get surround sound, so if your device is not able to encode that audio and transmit it over a single line, or if your home theater system doesn't have that option to use analog input for each of the 6 or more channels needed for surround sound, you will still get 2 chanel PCM without some sort of encoding like DolbyDigital Live or DTS Connect.

Please note the ain order to get full surround sound, EAX2 must be enabled. For whatever reason you will not get 3D positinal audio without EAX options being turned due to how they game is programmed.

I have a Sound Blaster Audigy Rx and using Alchemy still has EAX greyed out but Far Cry EAX is working.
Using analog 3.5mm jacks option.
Have you any tips to get FEAR working?
IndirectSound works but causing game stuttering.
Does it stutter without Indirect sound? There's a known bug in FEAR that causes stuttering because of something to do with hardware device ID's or something.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/21090/discussions/0/343785380897389173/

Indirect sound itself shouldn't cause any stuttering based on my usage.
ExcessiveGBH 2019 年 4 月 19 日 下午 6:07 
引用自 JZStudios
引用自 ExcessiveGBH

I have a Sound Blaster Audigy Rx and using Alchemy still has EAX greyed out but Far Cry EAX is working.
Using analog 3.5mm jacks option.
Have you any tips to get FEAR working?
IndirectSound works but causing game stuttering.
Does it stutter without Indirect sound? There's a known bug in FEAR that causes stuttering because of something to do with hardware device ID's or something.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/21090/discussions/0/343785380897389173/

Indirect sound itself shouldn't cause any stuttering based on my usage.

Stuttering only with iIndirect sound , without it...silky smooth.

Am now using DSOL https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/65094?tab=posts and this to configure to my liking https://openal-soft.org/#download openal-soft-1.19.1-bin.zip.
This has no stuttering and EAX HD is also available for FEAR

JZStudios 2019 年 4 月 19 日 下午 10:35 
引用自 ExcessiveGBH
引用自 JZStudios
Does it stutter without Indirect sound? There's a known bug in FEAR that causes stuttering because of something to do with hardware device ID's or something.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/21090/discussions/0/343785380897389173/

Indirect sound itself shouldn't cause any stuttering based on my usage.

Stuttering only with iIndirect sound , without it...silky smooth.

Am now using DSOL https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/65094?tab=posts and this to configure to my liking https://openal-soft.org/#download openal-soft-1.19.1-bin.zip.
This has no stuttering and EAX HD is also available for FEAR
Yeah I'm fiddling with that right now. Currently it's making Halo sound pretty muffled, where Indirect Sound played things correctly.
Do you have proper surround sound? I'm having a hell of a time trying to set this thing up.
ExcessiveGBH 2019 年 4 月 20 日 上午 3:21 
引用自 JZStudios
引用自 ExcessiveGBH

Stuttering only with iIndirect sound , without it...silky smooth.

Am now using DSOL https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/65094?tab=posts and this to configure to my liking https://openal-soft.org/#download openal-soft-1.19.1-bin.zip.
This has no stuttering and EAX HD is also available for FEAR
Yeah I'm fiddling with that right now. Currently it's making Halo sound pretty muffled, where Indirect Sound played things correctly.
Do you have proper surround sound? I'm having a hell of a time trying to set this thing up.
Yes mine is working 5.1. Using HD audio out Nvidia HDMI would only get 4.1 for FEAR. Outputting via my on board Realtek is 5.1 but make sure Sonic Studio 3 has surround tick. Weird as this is the only game I have to do it to have centre speaker working. It is directional, as panning around sound is transferring from speakers 360 degrees .
最后由 ExcessiveGBH 编辑于; 2019 年 4 月 20 日 上午 4:40
ExcessiveGBH 2019 年 4 月 20 日 上午 4:53 
引用自 JZStudios
引用自 ExcessiveGBH

Stuttering only with iIndirect sound , without it...silky smooth.

Am now using DSOL https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/65094?tab=posts and this to configure to my liking https://openal-soft.org/#download openal-soft-1.19.1-bin.zip.
This has no stuttering and EAX HD is also available for FEAR
Yeah I'm fiddling with that right now. Currently it's making Halo sound pretty muffled, where Indirect Sound played things correctly.
Do you have proper surround sound? I'm having a hell of a time trying to set this thing up.

Are you using the config tool? https://www.moddb.com/tutorials/be-happy-with-openal-soft.
It can be a bit flaky, as I had no sound from the centre speaker once in blue moon, I just rebuild it using the config tool if that happens, takes 30 seconds.
Also have centre speaker working without surround being ticked.
Re: Halo...coming out on steam soon, won't have worry about it.
最后由 ExcessiveGBH 编辑于; 2019 年 4 月 20 日 上午 4:55
JZStudios 2019 年 4 月 20 日 下午 1:29 
引用自 ExcessiveGBH
引用自 JZStudios
Yeah I'm fiddling with that right now. Currently it's making Halo sound pretty muffled, where Indirect Sound played things correctly.
Do you have proper surround sound? I'm having a hell of a time trying to set this thing up.

Are you using the config tool? https://www.moddb.com/tutorials/be-happy-with-openal-soft.
It can be a bit flaky, as I had no sound from the centre speaker once in blue moon, I just rebuild it using the config tool if that happens, takes 30 seconds.
Also have centre speaker working without surround being ticked.
Re: Halo...coming out on steam soon, won't have worry about it.
Well I was excited, then gave a sigh of resignation. I can't seem to figure out how to get it to work well with surround sound. There's not really help online.

Using DSOAL makes things sound distant and muffled, and the pistol and assault rifle sound awful. I've spent 2 days trying to figure out how to configure it but it's only now at the point where maybe it's at the same level I got from Indirect Sound by just dropping the files in the game folder. IS just by default drag n drop gave me proper surround sound and fixed the audio issue with the guns.
最后由 JZStudios 编辑于; 2019 年 4 月 20 日 下午 1:31
ExcessiveGBH 2019 年 4 月 20 日 下午 4:54 
引用自 JZStudios
引用自 ExcessiveGBH

Are you using the config tool? https://www.moddb.com/tutorials/be-happy-with-openal-soft.
It can be a bit flaky, as I had no sound from the centre speaker once in blue moon, I just rebuild it using the config tool if that happens, takes 30 seconds.
Also have centre speaker working without surround being ticked.
Re: Halo...coming out on steam soon, won't have worry about it.
Well I was excited, then gave a sigh of resignation. I can't seem to figure out how to get it to work well with surround sound. There's not really help online.

Using DSOAL makes things sound distant and muffled, and the pistol and assault rifle sound awful. I've spent 2 days trying to figure out how to configure it but it's only now at the point where maybe it's at the same level I got from Indirect Sound by just dropping the files in the game folder. IS just by default drag n drop gave me proper surround sound and fixed the audio issue with the guns.

Did you try this?
Getting muffled sound in-game!
This seems to be caused by Windows 8 and 10's audio stack. Go into your speaker properies and tick "Disable all sound effects" under Enhancements. Then, untick "All applications to take exclusive control" under Advanced.

JZStudios 2019 年 4 月 20 日 下午 5:36 
引用自 ExcessiveGBH
引用自 JZStudios
Well I was excited, then gave a sigh of resignation. I can't seem to figure out how to get it to work well with surround sound. There's not really help online.

Using DSOAL makes things sound distant and muffled, and the pistol and assault rifle sound awful. I've spent 2 days trying to figure out how to configure it but it's only now at the point where maybe it's at the same level I got from Indirect Sound by just dropping the files in the game folder. IS just by default drag n drop gave me proper surround sound and fixed the audio issue with the guns.

Did you try this?
Getting muffled sound in-game!
This seems to be caused by Windows 8 and 10's audio stack. Go into your speaker properies and tick "Disable all sound effects" under Enhancements. Then, untick "All applications to take exclusive control" under Advanced.
Yep. I'm on Win7 too, but I did that anyways. I don't have any sound effects or enhancements. Halo seems more or less sorted now, but I'm not convinced it's any better using DSOAL than IS. Also, as default Halo's assault rifle and pistol are just really weird. They don't work properly. IS fixes that, and I've gotten DSOAL to do the same, but only after 2 days of fiddling.

I also just dumped DSOAL into FEAR and I'm only getting stereo from it without being able to enable any EAX. Seems to be a common problem. Removing DSOAL and dropping in IS it works a treat. Still bizarre to me that it causes stuttering in your case. I'm also using the standard Nvidia HDMI output to me receiver and I don't have a TOSLINK cable to try straight from my mobo.
最后由 JZStudios 编辑于; 2019 年 4 月 20 日 下午 5:38
jonpol 2019 年 4 月 20 日 下午 6:43 
引用自 ExcessiveGBH
引用自 JZStudios
Does it stutter without Indirect sound? There's a known bug in FEAR that causes stuttering because of something to do with hardware device ID's or something.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/21090/discussions/0/343785380897389173/

Indirect sound itself shouldn't cause any stuttering based on my usage.

Stuttering only with iIndirect sound , without it...silky smooth.

Am now using DSOL https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/65094?tab=posts and this to configure to my liking https://openal-soft.org/#download openal-soft-1.19.1-bin.zip.
This has no stuttering and EAX HD is also available for FEAR

Hey there,

I'm glad you found an audio solution that works for you! For what it's worth, I would recommend the fix that JZStudios linked even if you haven't noticed problems and never intend to try IndirectSound again. It's a good thing to do for F.E.A.R. on modern systems :)
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