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gtjbm 13 DIC 2023 a las 7:38 a. m.
career mode
Hi, i'm interested in getting a racing game with a good career mode and apparently F1's career mode is pretty good?

Just wanted a few more details. Are you able to start at a lower level than F1, and also able to move to other teams by being approached during course of your career?

And also is my understanding correct there is only a 10 season limit?

Thanks
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Coffee Addict 13 DIC 2023 a las 10:54 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por gtjbm:
Are you able to start at a lower level than F1,
if you do a driver career then you can choose to start in F2 no such option for my team mode

Publicado originalmente por gtjbm:
And also is my understanding correct there is only a 10 season limit?
thats correct, however the game allows you to change settings like how much resources you get so when reaching the 10 season limit you dont have to start over from scratch again you can start off with a better team

Publicado originalmente por gtjbm:
able to move to other teams by being approached during course of your career?
yes and no, in my team mode you can only be on one team, in driver mode you sign a contract with a team and when the contract runs out you can either sign back up with the same team or you can see if other teams are interested in signing you, depending on how well you are doing in the season some teams wont sign you and others might give you better/worse contracts
gtjbm 13 DIC 2023 a las 11:16 a. m. 
sounds good, cheers
dbond1 13 DIC 2023 a las 11:17 a. m. 
I think F1 23's career modes are the best in sim racing, and it's not even close. I have every racing sim really, and nothing touches F1 23.

Some of your questions were answered already, and I agree with what was said.

Career modes shine here for a number of reasons. The calendar is easy to modify, for length and composition. If you play 10-race seasons you can switch every track from year to year. Or go full-season if you prefer. You can alter race length and qualifying type. I like all three -- one-shot, short and full -- and each season in the career I rotate these so I can use them all.

Rules and regulations are accurate, aside from having no sprint shootout.

You have the ability to engineer and develop your car, and the other teams do too. There's a fluctuating hierarchy here that other games do not have. In every racing game the fastest car when you buy the game is probably the fastest car five years later after you've dropped hundreds of hours. The Lotus is still the fastest car in GPL and it's been 25 years! But in this sim the teams rise and fall over time, it quite dynamic, and that stands out in the racing sim field.

The career modes also have changing regulations. It's all rather simplified mechanically, but toward the end of the season you can get a notification that certain departments (aero, chassis, power plant and durability) must have their parts made to conform with next year's regulations. In the past some teams would handle this well, and some not so much, so that when the new season kicks off the order has shifted. If you play long enough, maybe Williams will be top and Red Bull at the bottom. It is possible the way it works. This dynamism is fantastic in what is usually a pretty static aspect of racing sims.

My Team takes it all further. Now you are signing engine deals, hiring drivers, improving your factory, signing sponsors, designing your livery. When the game Motorsport Manager came out years ago I played it and remarked at the time that we need a racing sim that lets you be the owner and the driver at the same time, in essence combining Motorsport Manager with a racing sim where you are the pilot. This is what My Team is and despite the complaints you might read, there is nothing else like it.

Ten seasons is plenty, as I think you'll agree. That can be over 200 races and by this stage you might be keen to start anew.

Standard career is the better option in my view for long saves. In My Team, the progression isn't balanced well, and by third season at the latest your car will be far and away the best. Standard career puts the brakes on a bit since you can't develop your factory, so things go a little slower, plus you have the option to switch teams as Niki pointed out. So what I do is sign with a lower team or maybe a mid-table. I bring them to a title or close to it, then swap to another downtrodden team to raise them up. And now I have the team I built up and just left as rivals on the grid whilst I am farther down the order once again to begin our ascent. In this way I can avoid having the best car and keep the challenge going throughout the career.
Última edición por dbond1; 13 DIC 2023 a las 11:23 a. m.
gtjbm 13 DIC 2023 a las 11:24 a. m. 
thanks, yeah sounds pretty good indeed and what I am after. i'm kind of a novice tbh, so at least initially i'll probably start as a driver down in F2 and go from there.

guess only thing that would have been nice would to have a career length that of when starting a career in F1 at a young age until the end of your career. maybe in the future perhaps.
dbond1 13 DIC 2023 a las 3:08 p. m. 
The Braking Point mode in 2021 sort of had that narrative, though not a career mode. It is more like snippets of season of Drive to Survive with you as the young rookie being tossed in to late-race situations and battling your older, jaded rival. I have yet to try this in 23, maybe it's worth it? I'll give it a go at some point. But I come for career mode. This series takes a lot of flak, but career mode shouldn't be the target.

I started a career in F2 in one of the previous versions, but not so far in '23. Probably a good way to start, I doubt you'll have much responsibility aside from driving the car. F2 has a different structure for the weekend, like sprints and inverted grids. Good way to start I think.
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gtjbm 13 DIC 2023 a las 11:09 p. m. 
yeah i'll be intending to start in F2 in a driver career mode. Sadly I missed the game whilst on offer, so will probably wait till it next is available on deal but will defo get it when that comes around.

recently got nascar 5 heat actually as doing some research it was sort of the game I was after, which i'm currently liking quite a lot so hopefully that'll keep me going in the meantime!
dbond1 14 DIC 2023 a las 5:17 a. m. 
And I didn't even mention two-player career which further sets F1 23 (and the series) apart from the competition.

Another thing I didn't talk about is the AI drivers can retire, or swap teams, so as the seasons tick by there's this added variability. Driver moves can be turned off, but who does that? It's interesting to see this alternative version of F1 play out on your PC.

My Team also has the added bonus of introducing an 11th team to the grid, which is cool and makes for a better competition, development progression aside.
FaultyJawa 16 DIC 2023 a las 7:25 a. m. 
For career mode, signing into F1 from F2 is not really strict. Even if you do poorly in F2, you can immediately sign with any team you want. For example, you could have zero points in F2 and still kick Hamilton or Verstappen off their team to take their spot. So in that regard, it's a little disappointing for people like me who wanted to really have to challenge myself to earn a seat in F1. But, the game doesn't have a full F2 season built into career mode for 2023 and beyond, so you basically HAVE to pick an F1 team after going through the 2022 F2 season.

Teams won't proactively approach you during a season for signing a new contract. Basically, you just have to have your driver ranking (Driver Acclaim) at a certain level before some teams will accept your contract request. You can try for better terms at the risk of losing out on a potential contract, but you can always renegotiate at your next contract cycle even if you get turned down.

Overall, the career mode is still solid though, and if you do full length sessions and races, it'll give you a pretty immersive experience. I almost always take my career drivers into a lower team after F2, like Williams, Alfa, or AT. It can be frustrating at the start of a season in those cars (as it should be), but over time it gets more rewarding as the cars improve and you get familiar with them.

Like others said, it's a max of 10 seasons. But doing full length the entire time will give you many, many hours of a career each time.
gtjbm 16 DIC 2023 a las 8:38 a. m. 
yeah get that too, would nice to have a bit more realism on being able to move to an F1 team. But I guess at least you have the power in your hands to what you may deem reasonable with accepting an offer from a team.

Wouldn't be as hardcore here, would defo want shortest duration for each race. Assume that's also possible to have a good race length reduction?
dbond1 16 DIC 2023 a las 8:54 a. m. 
That's exactly it. The game may not be set up to factor in your performance and tailor offers to suit.

But few come from F2 and go to the top half of the table.

So just use your judgement. Set house rules. If you're going to come up from F2 you should be joining Stake (I know), Haas, Alpha Tauri (or whatever they are about to become) and that level.

Then set some sort of threshold for moving up again, if you are not keen on bringing your first team along for the ride. 15th or better nets a move to Alpine, or 12th you go to Aston Martin or whatever. Set targets and outcomes then have a bash at hitting them, if a realistic career trajectory is your aim.

And yes, race length is customizable, with a new 35% length setting introduced for F1 23

Quickfire – 3 lap race (safety car disabled by default)
Very Short – 5 lap race (safety car disabled by default)
Short – 25% race.
Medium – 35% race.
Long – 50% race.
Full – 100% race.

I do Long, as it makes strategy more of a factor, tire deg, weather and gives more opportunity for race-altering stuff like crashes, safety cars and red flags. The shortest two might not be options for career.
Última edición por dbond1; 16 DIC 2023 a las 8:57 a. m.
gtjbm 16 DIC 2023 a las 9:06 a. m. 
yeah that makes sense, want to at least need to come in for a pit stop once in a race for some degree of tactics / factors to affect the outcome of a race.
FaultyJawa 16 DIC 2023 a las 9:54 a. m. 
Long and medium length should get you one pit stop per race, and your fuel load will make more of a difference the longer you go. Long races will take you about 45-60 mins depending on the track and incidents, and medium races should take around 30-45 minutes, if memory serves correctly.

Honestly, the career experience in F1 23, while far from perfect, has the most customization I've personally seen in a racing game. You really can tailor it to suit exactly the experience you want to have. To me, that's the biggest selling point of it.
gtjbm 18 DIC 2023 a las 2:06 p. m. 
Was quite lucky to find a trial version available on the PS5 - it actually plays really well, comparing to much older F1 titles (haven't played a more recent one) it was very fun to play, and yeah noticed the customisation, great for a novice like myself.

That's handy to know with the duration, was playing 5 laps in the trial version. I'm guessing the shorter 25% length races, won't need a pit stop? How long would those races last?

Would probably have been my ideal length as 30-45 probably a tad long, especially with a lot of the preparation time before races with the practice sessions and qualifying etc.

Will probably give that length a try I guess. Decided to order it on the PS5, bout 40% or so cheaper.

Oh and awesome to see Michael Schumacher on there, fav driver and a legend!
Coffee Addict 18 DIC 2023 a las 2:13 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por gtjbm:
was playing 5 laps in the trial version. I'm guessing the shorter 25% length races, won't need a pit stop? How long would those races last?
5 laps is the only one that doesnt require a mandatory pit

25% races are around 10 laps or so depending on the track and 35% is around 20 or so laps
gtjbm 18 DIC 2023 a las 2:46 p. m. 
Cheers, the 12 - 16 range probably would've been ideal for me, so guessing the 25% range might be a better fit, as maybe some tracks will naturally have more laps than that?

Other thing I guess is the difficulty level to try and tweak. For someone that hasn't really got any knowledge about any F1 technicalities and is a casual PS5 player as it is, would a 33-40 out of 100 setting be reasonable level? (idea being a harder easier level of difficulty based on the above) and end up breaching to lowest medium if I got any better.
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