TS-PC and T-LCM still not working both using USB

[cyan5tar]

So same issue like in F1 23 where this combination does not work?
Do i really have to use the RJ12 Cable to play F1 23?

God bless i did not pre ordered that crap.
Every Game and Simulation works but EA just dont give a s**t about it.

[kevin.feeney37]

This is the problem i am having, I've spent over 2 hours in game so Steam won't refund now. Disgrace really.

[cyan5tar]

Nguyên văn bởi Huug:

Not sure what Thrustmaster wheel add on you guys have, but if it is the Ferrari F1 Wheel Add-On the following might help:

"If you are using a Ferrari F1 Wheel Add-On simultaneously with a T-LCM Pedals set connected via USB, you must select NORMAL Mode (and not ADVANCED MODE) in the Thrustmaster Control Panel. You can select ADVANCED MODE only if the T-LCM Pedals set is connected directly to the Thrustmaster wheel base with the RJ12 cable."

If found this on the following page: https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Thrustmaster-driver-update/td-p/11611937

It also points to the driver Interl@ce mentions.

Mind you, this is old info regarding F1 22, so it might not apply to F1 23. Couldn't hurt to try, though.

With the SF1000 i did not find a way to put it in normal mode actually. I have to stay with advanced mode.
I got myself an RJ12 cabel and everything works just fine. but this should not be the solution as i lose some bitrate on the pedals.

[Interl@ce]

Nguyên văn bởi cyan5tar:

With the SF1000 i did not find a way to put it in normal mode actually. I have to stay with advanced mode.
I got myself an RJ12 cabel and everything works just fine. but this should not be the solution as i lose some bitrate on the pedals.

We're seriously considering being the first to try fixing our own connector so dad's T3PA Pro pedals can plug directly into his non-T series wheel. Right now it's directly connected via USB.

The connector has a plastic clip on the RJ11 plug that's to the left instead of centered, that's the only visible physical obstacle-- if TM was sneaky enough to switch up the pinout (no documentation available) we might ruin both wheel + pedals by trying.

Will use a multimeter to check if any of those 4 wires carry 5v/12v just in case, but it's insanity that out of 25+ games including ALL the F1 games since 2010 only '22 and '23 are "broken" for his setup.

[Interl@ce]

Nguyên văn bởi just_an_rdM_Guy:

yup again its not working as seperate device... same issue here with a T300 base

I also dare whoever laughed at that to explain why chances are they'll run into their own non-controller based issues anyway!

[ClutchAnderson]

Nguyên văn bởi cyan5tar:

Nguyên văn bởi Huug:

Not sure what Thrustmaster wheel add on you guys have, but if it is the Ferrari F1 Wheel Add-On the following might help:

"If you are using a Ferrari F1 Wheel Add-On simultaneously with a T-LCM Pedals set connected via USB, you must select NORMAL Mode (and not ADVANCED MODE) in the Thrustmaster Control Panel. You can select ADVANCED MODE only if the T-LCM Pedals set is connected directly to the Thrustmaster wheel base with the RJ12 cable."

If found this on the following page: https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Thrustmaster-driver-update/td-p/11611937

It also points to the driver Interl@ce mentions.

Mind you, this is old info regarding F1 22, so it might not apply to F1 23. Couldn't hurt to try, though.

With the SF1000 i did not find a way to put it in normal mode actually. I have to stay with advanced mode.
I got myself an RJ12 cabel and everything works just fine. but this should not be the solution as i lose some bitrate on the pedals.

So the Ferrari F1 Wheel Add-On which is being referenced in that quote is the 2011 replica wheel not the SF1000. When I had that issue in 2022 one of the devs said the SF1000 works in advanced mode w/o issue. I'm using a T818 + SF1000 w/ TLCM pedals.

What I've had to do last year and sadly this year, is start the game and plug my pedals in after entering the main menu. There have been random instances where it will work w/ both plugged in but that also happened in F1 22... still surprised this is even still an issue tbh ._.

[sMeTaNa]

any update on fix?

[Huug]

Nguyên văn bởi sMeTaNa:

any update on fix?

Codemasters never fixed this issue in F1 22, so I would be surprised if they fix it in this version.

I took the gamble and bought F1 23 this weekend. I use the T-LCM in combination with the Logitech Pro Racing Wheel so have to connect my pedals to my PC using USB. To my pleasant surprise this combination works with F1 23, while I had the same issues with the pedals directly connected by USB and in combination with my T500RS wheel last year in F1 22. I took the following steps after installing F1 23:

- Before starting F1 23 for the first time I made sure I had only the pedals connected to my PC.
- Downloaded the Package 2023_TTRS_3 drivers from here: https://ts.thrustmaster.com/download/pub/webupdate/T500RS/2023_TTRS_3.exe
- Run the installer. The installation program found a previous version and asked if I wanted to uninstall that version. I let it do that.
- After the unintall I rebooted my PC just to be sure.
- Run the installer again to install the new drivers.
- Let the install program reboot my PC again when it asked me to.
- Connected my wheel (well, turned it on using the on/off button).
- Checked if wheel and pedals worked under Windows.
- Started F1 23 and got the message that my NVIDIA drivers where out-of-date.
- Updated the NVIDIA drivers.
- Started F1 23 again and was able to assign all axis and buttons on wheel and pedals.

Mind you, it is very well possible that my setup would have worked without above steps anyway. I never checked but just wanted to be sure the driver was up-to-date before starting F1 23 for the first time. Just added this to let people know that this combination of T-LCM on USB with a Logitech Pro Racing Wheel seems to be working for me so far. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it stops working a next time when I start the game. If will let you know if that happens.

[Interl@ce]

Nguyên văn bởi Huug:

Nguyên văn bởi sMeTaNa:

any update on fix?

Codemasters never fixed this issue in F1 22, so I would be surprised if they fix it in this version.

I took the gamble and bought F1 23 this weekend. I use the T-LCM in combination with the Logitech Pro Racing Wheel so have to connect my pedals to my PC using USB. To my pleasant surprise this combination works with F1 23, while I had the same issues with the pedals directly connected by USB and in combination with my T500RS wheel last year in F1 22. I took the following steps after installing F1 23:

- Before starting F1 23 for the first time I made sure I had only the pedals connected to my PC.
- Downloaded the Package 2023_TTRS_3 drivers from here: https://ts.thrustmaster.com/download/pub/webupdate/T500RS/2023_TTRS_3.exe
- Run the installer. The installation program found a previous version and asked if I wanted to uninstall that version. I let it do that.
- After the unintall I rebooted my PC just to be sure.
- Run the installer again to install the new drivers.
- Let the install program reboot my PC again when it asked me to.
- Connected my wheel (well, turned it on using the on/off button).
- Checked if wheel and pedals worked under Windows.
- Started F1 23 and got the message that my NVIDIA drivers where out-of-date.
- Updated the NVIDIA drivers.
- Started F1 23 again and was able to assign all axis and buttons on wheel and pedals.

Mind you, it is very well possible that my setup would have worked without above steps anyway. I never checked but just wanted to be sure the driver was up-to-date before starting F1 23 for the first time. Just added this to let people know that this combination of T-LCM on USB with a Logitech Pro Racing Wheel seems to be working for me so far. Although I wouldn't be surprised if it stops working a next time when I start the game. If will let you know if that happens.

Having gone through those exact steps as well, and now a couple times over under different OSes and systems just to make sure-- it works more often than '22 but still fails to get detected regularly with a separate thrustmaster wheel and T3PA Pro pedals over here.

Since out of dozens of titles only those two exhibit the issue its clear to me where the problem is but glad to hear at least support for your combo has improved

Technically it seems like extra input threads are now assigned per device of which one locks up vs a single input thread up to F1 '21. If you ever happen to notice only your wheel or pedals work-- alt-enter into windowed mode, click away from the game and back. You'll see the other device suddenly kicking in while the one that worked stops responding.

[sMeTaNa]

I tried everything from different drivers, disconnecting other hardware, updating windows, drivers, firmware, disabling power sleep limit for devices in device manager, tring out different usb slots...... and nothing. IM SO MAD RIGHT NOW..... THIS BUG IS KNOWN FOR OVER A YEAR NOW STARTING IN F1 22 AND WE ARE ON SAME PAGE 1 YEAR LATER. WHAT IS EVEN WORSE IS THAT I CANT REFUND NOW BECAUSE I SPEND XX HOURS TO TRY TO FIND A FIX. AND IM PRETTY SURE ____________EA______________ MUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE I PLAY AC, ETS2, BEAMNG, DIRT RALLY 2 AND IT WORKS FINE EVERYWHERE BUT ONLY NOT IN STUPID F1 23. MEABY I WAS STUPID BECAUSE I BOUGHT IT.....

[ClutchAnderson]

Weirdly enough the issue is no longer present on my end? I can start F1 23 w/ full inputs when I have my T818 plugged into the front I/O on my PC and the pedals plugged into a usb hub which is plugged into a USB3.0 port on my mobo.

[sMeTaNa]

Nguyên văn bởi ClutchAnderson:

Weirdly enough the issue is no longer present on my end? I can start F1 23 w/ full inputs when I have my T818 plugged into the front I/O on my PC and the pedals plugged into a usb hub which is plugged into a USB3.0 port on my mobo.

it doesnt work for me, also tryed to switch wheel and pedals and nope.

[Rasluka]

Nguyên văn bởi sMeTaNa:

I tried everything from different drivers, disconnecting other hardware, updating windows, drivers, firmware, disabling power sleep limit for devices in device manager, tring out different usb slots...... and nothing. IM SO MAD RIGHT NOW..... THIS BUG IS KNOWN FOR OVER A YEAR NOW STARTING IN F1 22 AND WE ARE ON SAME PAGE 1 YEAR LATER. WHAT IS EVEN WORSE IS THAT I CANT REFUND NOW BECAUSE I SPEND XX HOURS TO TRY TO FIND A FIX. AND IM PRETTY SURE ____________EA______________ MUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE I PLAY AC, ETS2, BEAMNG, DIRT RALLY 2 AND IT WORKS FINE EVERYWHERE BUT ONLY NOT IN STUPID F1 23. MEABY I WAS STUPID BECAUSE I BOUGHT IT.....

This is why you don't pre-order or buy an EA game on release.

[sMeTaNa]

Nguyên văn bởi Huug:

Not sure what Thrustmaster wheel add on you guys have, but if it is the Ferrari F1 Wheel Add-On the following might help:

"If you are using a Ferrari F1 Wheel Add-On simultaneously with a T-LCM Pedals set connected via USB, you must select NORMAL Mode (and not ADVANCED MODE) in the Thrustmaster Control Panel. You can select ADVANCED MODE only if the T-LCM Pedals set is connected directly to the Thrustmaster wheel base with the RJ12 cable."

If found this on the following page: https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/Thrustmaster-driver-update/td-p/11611937

It also points to the driver Interl@ce mentions.

Mind you, this is old info regarding F1 22, so it might not apply to F1 23. Couldn't hurt to try, though.

and i forgot about this too but i have latest drivers and i donnt have advanced and normal mode function in settings (using ts-pc and t-lcm)

[sMeTaNa]

only working ¨fix¨ for now is what i was doing in f1 22 is unplug pedals usb from pc, start the game and plug it back when u are in f1 main menu but dont alt tab or minimaze game because sometimes it brokes connection to pedals or wheels and u must repeat procedure to work again. Its kinda ennoying but at least it works.

[cyan5tar]

I opened a ticket on the forum.
It would be nice to bring the conversation to the forum as it seems they dont give a ♥♥♥♥ on this forum.
So maybe we can reach out to them on their side.

https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues-Bug-Reports/Why-does-F1-23-still-not-allow-pedals-connected-via-usb-TS-PC-T/m-p/12676692#M3236