Gatling Laser Secondary Fire w/ TJ

[alveolate]

recently, i got to using drone launcher to proc Skye's passive + gatling laser 2nd fire to blow stuff up. this got me wondering, how exactly is the damage calculated?

according to wiki, Skye's passive[sanctum.gamepedia.com] gives +2% damage per hit on enemy, stacking up to 50x for a 100% damage boost lasting 5 seconds (or longer if your drones just won't stop firing). also according to wiki, gatling 2nd fire does 1750 damage. gatling laser is classed as a "fast" weapon, so TJ grants it 250% damage, becoming 4375 base damage. along with spray n pray (40%) and fast hands (35%) perks, i end up doing 8k-11k damage per shockwave.

so apparently, the TJ boost is multiplied into the other damage boosts.
► 4375 * (1 + 1.00 +0.40 + 0.35) = 12031.25

12k damage is enough to OHKO lumes up to Screamer Matriarch (12k hp) in solo. 12k in a 2-block radius aoe = entire waves OHKO'd.

can i say... overpowered?

[Unicarn]

Isn't drone launcher now considered a "fast" weapon now? Before it was "slow" and it made Gatling Laser do massive damage. Also I think they nerfed Skye's passive.

[alveolate]

from what i've read, drone launcher[sanctum.gamepedia.com] is considered a "slow" weapon (pretty obvious, since it gets x2 ammo with TJ). the difference is that the drones themselves are now considered "fast", so they fire slower and get half ammo. TJ simply allows me to fire off more drones quicker.

either way, DL's damage isn't my main concern... i just use DL to reliably proc skye's passive, since the drones seek their own targets and fire fairly quickly even on TJ. the additional benefit is that drones hit infinite armor targets, and actually does very decent dps (base 3375 dps) at infinite range without any need to aim.

but all that dps still pales in comparison to gatling's 12k aoe...

[Blaquicat]

You know this right?

The secondary fire creates a shockwave around the user. The trigger can be held down to use more ammunition, though take note that doing so does not increase the damage. Instead, using more ammunition increases the range of the shockwave. This shockwave can cause weakspot damage, though only if the crosshairs are lined up so.

http://sanctum.gamepedia.com/Gatling_Laser

[alveolate]

yes i came here from the wiki. which is all the more surprising too, since i still do up to 12k damage per pop.

did u even read my post... i quoted the gatling damage of 1750 from the wiki.

[Blaquicat]

12k damage?

..
I will try that later..

[Gravgon]

I just tryed it, is so much fun if you par it with the Perk the speeds you up by 5% for each hit or something. you can run super fast with the AoE blast and get out unharmed. also found spray and pray is a great perk for this as well. seeing that you are dong no aiming at all xD.

[codewarrior0]

TJ changes the weapon's base damage. All other damage perks and passives will multiply with it. By itself, TJ increases the damage output of fast weapons by 20% and slow weapons by 25%.

Gatling Laser has always been powerful, to pay for the risk of using it in close quarters. A popular loadout in the past had Haigen with Hip Fire, Spray and Pray and TJ with Gatling Laser for 9300 damage blasts. Gatling was recently nerfed to use 28 ammo for a full size explosion. Consequently, TJ reduces the maximum range on the gatling's secondary fire.

[alveolate]

if you like seeing huge numbers, try using collateral damage (100%) and bloodletter (20% per kill; not sure how many max stacks)

[majik]

It was even better before patch, but yeah Gatling laser is an extremely good weapon. It also works strangely with Tsygan's passive. Since it's harder to get procs from Drones now as you said, it's a bit weaker with Skye, but it stills one of the best Aoe of the game. Use it till it lasts.

[arkenvoyd]

Originally posted by alveolate:

if you like seeing huge numbers, try using collateral damage (100%) and bloodletter (20% per kill; not sure how many max stacks)

You mean the other way around - bloodletter for 100% boost for 12 seconds after killing 4 enemies, and collateral for 20% boost after killing an enemy

[alveolate]

oops, yeah what you said :)