MACROSS -Shooting Insight-

MACROSS -Shooting Insight-

mobischuu Mar 10, 2024 @ 10:26pm
Where's Lynn Minmay in EN version?
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Nowarren Mar 11, 2024 @ 1:42am 
I wish they release that DLC outside Japan at least after a little while. A Macross II DLC too :)
Outsider Mar 11, 2024 @ 3:11am 
Originally posted by mobischuu:
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Harmony Gold is evil even by modern corporations' standards. Like comically so.
So we'll probably have to mod it in.
Fraggoth Mar 11, 2024 @ 6:56am 
Originally posted by Outsider:
Originally posted by mobischuu:
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Harmony Gold is evil even by modern corporations' standards. Like comically so.
So we'll probably have to mod it in.

...Last I checked, Harmony Gold has absolutely nothing to do with this game.

I agree that Harmony Gold and Frank Agrama in particular are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ scumlords though.
Outsider Mar 11, 2024 @ 7:47am 
Originally posted by Fraggoth:
Originally posted by Outsider:
Harmony Gold is evil even by modern corporations' standards. Like comically so.
So we'll probably have to mod it in.

...Last I checked, Harmony Gold has absolutely nothing to do with this game.

I agree that Harmony Gold and Frank Agrama in particular are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ scumlords though.
Having nothing to do with this game? It even gets western version because they agreed to not include "robotech" content in it. That's why there is no minmay and VF1s. Having nothing to do my sas.
Fraggoth Mar 11, 2024 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by Outsider:
Having nothing to do with this game? It even gets western version because they agreed to not include "robotech" content in it. That's why there is no minmay and VF1s. Having nothing to do my sas.

If you can post a source that shows that Harmony Gold were involved in the game's development and their decision to lock the DYRL versions of characters behind a DLC that may-or-may-not be getting localized (probably not at this point but there's no hard confirmation that it's off the table that I've seen), I would certainly appreciate it - if only for further information and valid reasons to justify my extreme dislike of Harmony Gold.

I agree that it is not unreasonable to assume it's HG meddling yet again, but there are other potential reasons for what's happening: song licensing rights, other conflicting distribution rights, etc. I know Toho Co. was involved in the distribution of "Macross: Do You Remember Love?" and their name still carries some weight, so it is also not unreasonable to think they might be involved here, rather than Harmony Gold.

Alternatively, it's just classic bad/unclear communication on the part of the publisher or developers, which happens pretty frequently.
Last edited by Fraggoth; Mar 11, 2024 @ 1:43pm
Outsider Mar 11, 2024 @ 6:30pm 
Originally posted by Fraggoth:
Originally posted by Outsider:
Having nothing to do with this game? It even gets western version because they agreed to not include "robotech" content in it. That's why there is no minmay and VF1s. Having nothing to do my sas.

If you can post a source that shows that Harmony Gold were involved in the game's development and their decision to lock the DYRL versions of characters behind a DLC that may-or-may-not be getting localized (probably not at this point but there's no hard confirmation that it's off the table that I've seen), I would certainly appreciate it - if only for further information and valid reasons to justify my extreme dislike of Harmony Gold.

I agree that it is not unreasonable to assume it's HG meddling yet again, but there are other potential reasons for what's happening: song licensing rights, other conflicting distribution rights, etc. I know Toho Co. was involved in the distribution of "Macross: Do You Remember Love?" and their name still carries some weight, so it is also not unreasonable to think they might be involved here, rather than Harmony Gold.

Alternatively, it's just classic bad/unclear communication on the part of the publisher or developers, which happens pretty frequently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macross#Legal_complications_with_international_distribution
"On March 1, 2021, Big West, Studio Nue, and Harmony Gold have agreed to work together and distribute Macross properties outside Japan alongside Robotech."
So yeah Harmony Gold is directly involved, and if you're not seeing something, that should be there, it's their call.
Rizo the Hunter Mar 12, 2024 @ 2:37am 
If you want Minmay, you have to buy the Switch version from Playasia.
Boxdesu Mar 12, 2024 @ 4:01pm 
the most frustrating part is that HG do absolutely nothing with the IP other than sit on it.
ThePapaZone Mar 12, 2024 @ 4:36pm 
HG does a lot with the IP, it's just all licensed merchandise.
Gerli Mar 12, 2024 @ 8:29pm 
Originally posted by Fraggoth:
Originally posted by Outsider:
Harmony Gold is evil even by modern corporations' standards. Like comically so.
So we'll probably have to mod it in.

...Last I checked, Harmony Gold has absolutely nothing to do with this game.

I agree that Harmony Gold and Frank Agrama in particular are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ scumlords though.

HG is NOT involved in this game but the developers must follow the rules of the settlement that HG and BW agreed upon; no merchandising for the original series can be sold outside Japan.
Eocene Mar 13, 2024 @ 3:38am 
I want to get this, but my interest in Macross is limited beyond the OG series and DYRL, and I'm disappointed to learn that this content will be off-limits tot us gaijins.
Last edited by Eocene; Mar 13, 2024 @ 6:04am
NeoStrayCat Mar 13, 2024 @ 6:20am 
Yeah, outside of the original Macross/DYRL characters being relegated to DLC in the JP console versions only (as the only way around it to go through Harmony Gold's nonsense.), that's just sad. Otherwise, hopefully those that get those versions could translate their side of the story.

Originally posted by Fraggoth:
Originally posted by Outsider:
Harmony Gold is evil even by modern corporations' standards. Like comically so.
So we'll probably have to mod it in.

...Last I checked, Harmony Gold has absolutely nothing to do with this game.

I agree that Harmony Gold and Frank Agrama in particular are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ scumlords though.
While I also agree that HG is a PoS, Frank Agrama, who has since lead the company, passed a while back. That doesn't mean the company is shuttered, his next of kin takes over it. Though more than likely its still "business as normal" over there.

Originally posted by Rizo the Hunter:
If you want Minmay, you have to buy the Switch version from Playasia.
Or the PS version(s) there too. Also digitally with the DLC being separate (NS) or included (PS).
Last edited by NeoStrayCat; Mar 13, 2024 @ 6:23am
Demiurge Mar 14, 2024 @ 6:00pm 
Wow they are just begging for sailing on the high seas
Rizo the Hunter Mar 14, 2024 @ 6:16pm 
Originally posted by Demiurge:
Wow they are just begging for sailing on the high seas
I am sure its a Harmony Gold tactic. We pirate the game to get Minmay, Big West cries, Harmony Gold laughs because they are not the ones affected.
theclaw135 Mar 14, 2024 @ 11:06pm 
Originally posted by Fraggoth:
Originally posted by Outsider:
Having nothing to do with this game? It even gets western version because they agreed to not include "robotech" content in it. That's why there is no minmay and VF1s. Having nothing to do my sas.

If you can post a source that shows that Harmony Gold were involved in the game's development and their decision to lock the DYRL versions of characters behind a DLC that may-or-may-not be getting localized (probably not at this point but there's no hard confirmation that it's off the table that I've seen), I would certainly appreciate it - if only for further information and valid reasons to justify my extreme dislike of Harmony Gold.

I agree that it is not unreasonable to assume it's HG meddling yet again, but there are other potential reasons for what's happening: song licensing rights, other conflicting distribution rights, etc. I know Toho Co. was involved in the distribution of "Macross: Do You Remember Love?" and their name still carries some weight, so it is also not unreasonable to think they might be involved here, rather than Harmony Gold.

Alternatively, it's just classic bad/unclear communication on the part of the publisher or developers, which happens pretty frequently.

Harmony Gold has an exclusive worldwide (excluding Japan) license to Super Dimension Fortress Macross and all associated content therein. Any marketing of its characters or mecha, must be arranged through HG.
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