The bike understeer

[zBRIGGHYz]

Why everytime I go on throttle even 20 / 30 % throttle, the bike goes wide. Is there a setting to change for this or am I wrong? It is really frustrating.

[Michele Cerminara]

Clearly this thing got out of their hand as all the new feature they try to put at every release. Remember how many treatments the front brakes had before being decent?

So ok, the tourque produced by the engine tends to straight up a bike, but this is clearly something not this simple. The rear tyre tends also to point to the outside, making the bike to close the line.

If you open the gas too much the rear tyre will start to spin, because you're almost 60° leaned and at that point there's no force that could straight you up in any way.

MotoGPs can powerslide at massive leaning angles while throttling out from a corner. Take a look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoygFBAHICQ

In Motogp 23 there's no way to make the rear slide. The bike will always straight up.

The physics they built is very raw, it doesn't consider all the aspect behind that behaviour and it's poorly detailed. The idea was not bad, because once reached a certain torque and the right leaning angle the effect could be nice to feel. But not at this stage.

Oh and by the way, Moto3 acts EXACTLY the same. I mean, they have 50 HP and they weight 75kg. Even less sense on all that.

[zBRIGGHYz]

Agree!!!

[OkThen]

I race as well it's normal, but could be toned down a little.

[Your Favorite Eggo]

Originally posted by Michele Cerminara:

Clearly this thing got out of their hand as all the new feature they try to put at every release. Remember how many treatments the front brakes had before being decent?

So ok, the tourque produced by the engine tends to straight up a bike, but this is clearly something not this simple. The rear tyre tends also to point to the outside, making the bike to close the line.

If you open the gas too much the rear tyre will start to spin, because you're almost 60° leaned and at that point there's no force that could straight you up in any way.

MotoGPs can powerslide at massive leaning angles while throttling out from a corner. Take a look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoygFBAHICQ

In Motogp 23 there's no way to make the rear slide. The bike will always straight up.

The physics they built is very raw, it doesn't consider all the aspect behind that behaviour and it's poorly detailed. The idea was not bad, because once reached a certain torque and the right leaning angle the effect could be nice to feel. But not at this stage.

Oh and by the way, Moto3 acts EXACTLY the same. I mean, they have 50 HP and they weight 75kg. Even less sense on all that.

100% correct. I really hope the devs see this comment and take note

[kensai606]

I guess the point is that milestone make games and not sims.
The RL bikes are difficult to ride fast, RL game physics heads towards a difficult to play game. Which entails a whole lot more complaints.

My main point is: milestone has a poor record when it comes to fixing games. Further investment won't happen, nerfing will.

[Michele Cerminara]

If they want to achieve that kind of feeling, they sould give to the steering axis a progressive heaviness rather than limiting its angle, a bike at full power it's obviously heavier and you can't slam it quickly here and there, but the throttle needs to keep its oversteering distinction and should not limit the max reaching angle THIS much.

[Babeline]

They cannot reproduce everything on a simulator. I find that they make an effort to approach reality. It's not easy to please the beginner and the expert. A little sympathy for the creators of this simulation would be a good thing..