The true Mystery

[Achi]

I just got the game and it tells a sad story, while also being very charming. It just seems that the real mystery - what triggered such a drastic change in society on board a colony ship - remains completely in the dark. I know that the game thematized a completely different issue, but it still seems to me like there is a 400 pound Gorilla sitting in the corner and nobody seems to care.
How can you set out to colonize other planets, if you create a system that completely disregards the needs of the other gender. What major incident happened that all data referring to it and the events before were destroyed?

[Puzzlemint]

There's a sequel

[Gao Li]

Originally posted by Achi:

How can you set out to colonize other planets, if you create a system that completely disregards the needs of the other gender. What major incident happened that all data referring to it and the events before were destroyed?

Isn't that the story of most of mankind, really? I know in amany southeast asian civilizations such disparaty never occured, and is still not prevalent up until the presentday era, but in many other societies in Europe, and Mainland Asia it happened. And it is really difficult to explain as to why it happened there, but not in other regions. And despite this happening, the Europeans still managed to travers the globe (southeast asians managed to get afar also, just saying), and Americans were the first on the moon, despite having a very negative look upon women and everyone who wasn't white.

So, yeah, you can do all of those things and still discriminate against others.

[Achi]

Originally posted by Gao Li:

Originally posted by Achi:

How can you set out to colonize other planets, if you create a system that completely disregards the needs of the other gender. What major incident happened that all data referring to it and the events before were destroyed?

Isn't that the story of most of mankind, really? I know in amany southeast asian civilizations such disparaty never occured, and is still not prevalent up until the presentday era, but in many other societies in Europe, and Mainland Asia it happened. And it is really difficult to explain as to why it happened there, but not in other regions. And despite this happening, the Europeans still managed to travers the globe (southeast asians managed to get afar also, just saying), and Americans were the first on the moon, despite having a very negative look upon women and everyone who wasn't white.

So, yeah, you can do all of those things and still discriminate against others.

Well, the question isn't if it could or did happen in history, but why did it happen here. You have people from an advanced "enlightened" society with a clear mission (colonize other planets), and something happened on board of that ship which completely changed that. So what did cause those events that re-established a feudal system, as well as a loss of knowledge about technology and language. Some event must have taken place that triggered those changes, and the game doesn't give any hints or clues.

[Achi]

Originally posted by Puzzlemint Killkiller:

There's a sequel

Hmm I have to check it out. Thanks for the info :)

[Vincil]

Originally posted by Achi:

Originally posted by Puzzlemint Killkiller:

There's a sequel

Hmm I have to check it out. Thanks for the info :)

It's actually like a standalone exspasion. You can use your completed-game save from A Hate Story and continue the story from there (get to be all huby and waifu with *Mute ^_^)

[Fiachra]

Had to purchass it and installing now to find out what happened!

[The Wapentake]

"Hate Plus" spells it out very well. Whatever the original mission was, the whole social structure went to hades once the AI in charge of navigation (*Star) was destroyed. Whether they started with it or not, the idea of a social class distinction ("noble" versus "commoner/peasant") simply lead into a male versus female value judgement with males on the top of the class as it was in most eastern societies. The only society that I can think of that actively opposed this was Israel, which set the concept of lineage to matrilineal lines. Otherwise, the rest of the world seems to have stuck with the concept that the patrilineal line is the "true" concept of lineage. No word on how misguided either of these ideas are...