Walls Have Ears quest fails everytime [spoilers]

[soopytwist]

To say the quest structure in Witcher 2 is complicated would be an understatement. I'd also add bloody stupid to that.

I just wasted an hour and half of my life doing the Balitmore's Nightmare quest and it failed once I'd gotten Thorak's chest open with his key (after killing him). Figuring it must have something to do with having cured Saskia beforehand I went back to a slightly earlier save and did the whole shi**ing mission again and it failed a second time.

I raged quit.

Not even sure if I can be bothered to carry on with this game now. The quest structure takes the p*ss.

[CrackeR]

You are missing something and it's the games fault? lol wow
Maybe check out the wiki on it or goog the questname?
Then if it fails ...rant on! ;)

[Deivis]

Don't ask me why CDP did that but it's silly :(
To complete that quest:
1. After the riot breaks out (Royal Blood quest), talk to only the dwarves and peasants.
2. Leave the riot and proceed to complete The Walls Have Ears until it reads "Wait for events to unfold."
3. Proceed to complete Suspect: Thorak until it reads "Wait for events to unfold."
4. Proceed to complete Baltimore's Nightmare until you kill Thorak.
5. Finish Suspect: Thorak. Opening Thorak's chest should complete both quests.
6. Walk to Cecil's home and finish Baltimore's Nightmare.
7. Return to the riot and complete the scene based on the evidence you have gathered.

Originally posted by Cracker:

You are missing something and it's the games fault? lol wow
Maybe check out the wiki on it or goog the questname?
Then if it fails ...rant on! ;):venomousspider:

But basically it's game's fault.

[soopytwist]

Yes, it's the games fault. Really, REALLY stupidly designed that whole quest and the ones that criss-cross it. Since I've already done too much I couldn't be bothered to do it all again so I left it.

Even though I succesfully completed "Suspect: Thorak" (because it is green ticked). As soon as I finished Act II it gets marked with a red cross!

I sure hope the quest structure in Witcher 3 is better than this sh*t.

[soopytwist]

Originally posted by Deivis:

Don't ask me why CDP did that but it's silly :(
To complete that quest:
1. After the riot breaks out (Royal Blood quest), talk to only the dwarves and peasants.
2. Leave the riot and proceed to complete The Walls Have Ears until it reads "Wait for events to unfold."
3. Proceed to complete Suspect: Thorak until it reads "Wait for events to unfold."
4. Proceed to complete Baltimore's Nightmare until you kill Thorak.
5. Finish Suspect: Thorak. Opening Thorak's chest should complete both quests.
6. Walk to Cecil's home and finish Baltimore's Nightmare.
7. Return to the riot and complete the scene based on the evidence you have gathered.

I wiped all my saves after the riot and did the whole sodding lot again using a cheat mod so I could just blast through it all (not wasting another two days of gameplay). Completed Royal Blood, The Walls Have Ears, Baltimore's Nightmare and Suspect: Thorak. They're all green ticked.

Got to Vergen Besieged and right after the part with the burning oil I hear the failed mission sound. Have a look at my quests and now Suspect: Thorak and The Walls Have Ears are failed -even though they were already succesful...

...I'm done. Uninstalled. Can't be arsed to finish this crap.

Oh and when I tried loading a previous save (The Eternal Battle, the last auto save) the game starts on the battle field then immediately fades to black, Geralt has another memory and then wakes up in Phillipa's room and those two quests fail - even though they didn't fail until AFTER the siege, before I reloaded.

I'm sorry, I can't carry on playing a game that's do f*cking dumb.

[Nealon_Greene]

Its crazy how good Witcher 3 is, compared to Witcher 2. The criss-crossing of quests in 2 was unbearable.

[MachadoNense]

In my game, something similar happened. First I could not do the mission "The walls have ears," because the servant guarded by squirrels vanished the game. (Have been searching about it and found that it's a very common bug).
I decided to do the "Baltimore's nightmare" and "Suspect: Thorak" missions. I managed to complete them perfectly. However, when I finished Act II, the mission "Suspect: Thorak" has been updated to missing.
I decided to continue the Act III, instead of redoing the Act II to repair the mission. To be honest, I ended up doing only the main quests of Act III, not doing the side quests, because I was already annoyed by the amount of bugs in the game.

[Shy]

4. Proceed to complete Baltimore's Nightmare until you kill Thorak.
5. Finish Suspect: Thorak. Opening Thorak's chest should complete both quests.

Doing step 5, failed my Walls Have Ears quest. Failed it but completed Suspect: Thorak
Wouldve been nice if they implemented a warning before completing if it was going to fail a certain quest.

[Neostorm_X]

YO GUYS AFTER 2 HOURS OF FIGGURING OUT I FINIALLY FOUND A EASY WAY to finish BOTH QUEST WITHOUT FAILING ANOTHER
SO it turns out if you have both quests at the same time. if you complete one of them the other fails.
ignore the guy above me cuz that only works if you HAVE killed thorak before "ROYAL blood" quest even started since you didn't it won't work

so BASICLY
1. Royal blood starts TALK to first the peasants THEN to the dwarfs
so now you have both "walls have ears" and "thorak"
2. so INSTEAD of talking to the servant being guarded by the elves you FIRST go to thoraks room and take his notes (after completing Baltimore’s dream and killing him or completing it NOW if you havn't)
AND BAM you finish the quest "THORAK" right then and there so you don't have to worry about it.
3. If you do this then the walls have ears will NOT fail since you've haven’t started it yet since you've never questioned the servant yet. So now you finally question the servant and follow the quest outlines.
4. Then finally when it says “wait for events to unfold" simply enter the area of the peasants and during the scene say prince Stennis is innocent
the finally you finished both quests

[Emblem Parade]

Playing this in 2019 and the rage is still fresh. :) I ended giving up on one quest because fixing it would have required me to repeat 3 hours of gameplay. Very painful for us completionists to give up on anything! And I did try to follow the walkthroughs, guess I did something wrong somewhere. It's so complicated.

I have kinda managed to convince myself that this isn't too bad. After all, this is a heavy "choices matter" game, in which one choice can make the difference for experiencing a whole chapter. So, missing a side-quest shouldn't be a big deal. Right?

Well, not entirely convinced. ;) "Choices matter" should be about role-playing, about moral resolutions, and sometimes about cleverness. What's so annoying about this is that this whole side-quest sequence feels so arbitrary: who you decide to talk to first, which side quest did you start when, etc.

I'm loving this game, but it just has so many poor design choices.

[Neostorm_X]

Originally posted by Emblem Parade:

Playing this in 2019 and the rage is still fresh. :) I ended giving up on one quest because fixing it would have required me to repeat 3 hours of gameplay. Very painful for us completionists to give up on anything! And I did try to follow the walkthroughs, guess I did something wrong somewhere. It's so complicated.

I have kinda managed to convince myself that this isn't too bad. After all, this is a heavy "choices matter" game, in which one choice can make the difference for experiencing a whole chapter. So, missing a side-quest shouldn't be a big deal. Right?

Well, not entirely convinced. ;) "Choices matter" should be about role-playing, about moral resolutions, and sometimes about cleverness. What's so annoying about this is that this whole side-quest sequence feels so arbitrary: who you decide to talk to first, which side quest did you start when, etc.

I'm loving this game, but it just has so many poor design choices.

ya i liked 2 better than the third game

[ash_twoface]

Originally posted by Deivis:

Don't ask me why CDP did that but it's silly :(
To complete that quest:
1. After the riot breaks out (Royal Blood quest), talk to only the dwarves and peasants.
2. Leave the riot and proceed to complete The Walls Have Ears until it reads "Wait for events to unfold."
3. Proceed to complete Suspect: Thorak until it reads "Wait for events to unfold."
4. Proceed to complete Baltimore's Nightmare until you kill Thorak.
5. Finish Suspect: Thorak. Opening Thorak's chest should complete both quests.
6. Walk to Cecil's home and finish Baltimore's Nightmare.
7. Return to the riot and complete the scene based on the evidence you have gathered.

Originally posted by Cracker:

You are missing something and it's the games fault? lol wow
Maybe check out the wiki on it or goog the questname?
Then if it fails ...rant on! ;):venomousspider:

But basically it's game's fault.

ammm...on this note....i followed this exact same path (was following gamefaq.gamespot and game's wiki)...and yet as soon as i completed eternal war those 2 (walls have ears and suspect: Thorak) still failed...IDK what to do about this dumb problem but im certain it has no effect on the final save and witcher 3 so i guess what ever!?...

[BioHazardAlBatros]

Originally posted by ash_twoface:

Originally posted by Deivis:

Don't ask me why CDP did that but it's silly :(
To complete that quest:
1. After the riot breaks out (Royal Blood quest), talk to only the dwarves and peasants.
2. Leave the riot and proceed to complete The Walls Have Ears until it reads "Wait for events to unfold."
3. Proceed to complete Suspect: Thorak until it reads "Wait for events to unfold."
4. Proceed to complete Baltimore's Nightmare until you kill Thorak.
5. Finish Suspect: Thorak. Opening Thorak's chest should complete both quests.
6. Walk to Cecil's home and finish Baltimore's Nightmare.
7. Return to the riot and complete the scene based on the evidence you have gathered.

But basically it's game's fault.

ammm...on this note....i followed this exact same path (was following gamefaq.gamespot and game's wiki)...and yet as soon as i completed eternal war those 2 (walls have ears and suspect: Thorak) still failed...IDK what to do about this dumb problem but im certain it has no effect on the final save and witcher 3 so i guess what ever!?...

are u playing, son?

[Neostorm_X]

wow this was like years ago,
but about the witcher 3 thing,
apparently even though i spared letho for witcher 2 for some reason it didn't register at all for witcher 3
most of my choices aside from wether i sided with roach or iorveth was the only thing that was there and iorveth wasn't even in witcher 3 for some dumb reason

[dankogrg]

Guys, it's pretty simple actually, but stupid nevertheless:
You need to enter the mob and do those preliminary talks, and then NOT go back tho that three fathers area and continue the cutscene that ends in Stannis' apprehension, but finish the Baltimore nightmare mission first, i.e. go to harpies then with dreams, find Baltimore's dream etc.
I also did it wrong bc game is stupid and it tells you to 'hurry' while you dont have to hurry at all, but just avoid the Stannis bedroom area

[OldMemes.biz]

In case anyone is inquiring about this in 2022:

Suspect: Thorak
The Walls Have Ears

BOTH quests, *even when done perfectly and showing as a green check initially* will FAIL after The Mist, at the start of Vergen Besieged. It's just coded that way.

It doesn't really mean you failed them, and you had already received any exp you had coming from the whole Stennis/Saskia Poisoned drama in the first place. It's a non-issue so if you see them both listed as failed after you wake up in Philippa's at the start of the Siege there's no reason to freak out.