low FPS on GTX 1070 (ubersampling is off) and slow mouse in menus (4k resolution)

[Jesse Dylan]

I guess there must be some issue with the 10 series cards or something? I should not be having issues running a 10 year-old game. Do I need to reduce the resolution? My monitor is native 4k, so I hate to drop the resolution. The frame rate is 20-60fps, so it's not that bad, but the slow mouse is killing me.

Besides turning off ubersampling, is there something else I should be doing? (I should be able to run it with ubersampling on, but, alas.)

(Edit: tried Nvidia's recommended resolution, which was 1440p (why? it then chastised me afterwards for running something in my monitor's non-native resolution), and that fixed the frame rate but not the mouse.)

Edit edit: I'm using a controller now instead of the mouse which sidesteps the mouse issues. I also went back to 4k but turned video texture down. Not sure if that was the issue or why. I should have way more than plenty VRAM...

[APN34Z]

Well first of all this game is just over 7 years old, not 10 ;)
You wont be able to run this in 4k never mind uber sample lol, this game would not have been made and properly optimized for 4k back in those days, its a heavy true PC game...Dont know how/why you seem to think 20-60 FPS is good either!?

I have no idea about the mouse but yes 1440p sounds about right, it tells me to run uber at 1080p but i cant handle that, my FPS is worse than 4k without uber.

What i did was use gedosato to sample the display to 1440p from 1080p then use ultra SMAA with Lanczos scaling, its looks epic now and my FPS are solid and above 60, mostly around 80FPS so i dont have to worry about dips.

Honestly it doesnt even look that much different in 1080 to a 4k image in this game for some odd reason, it took me a couple of hours to run some side by side comparisons and decide what to do, i did try 3200x1800 and stayed mostly above 60 (just) but in cutscene and some points of the game it dips to 45ish and i couldnt be bothered with that mess.

I understand why you wouldnt want to use a lower resolution on a higher panel, but i really cant understand why you even have a 4k panel with just a 1070 card, its not really a 4k capable card, the 1080ti is however...Anyways i hope you find a solution until then good luck with it.

P.S Just use a gamepad guys, its better for most 3rd person games anyways?!

Oh and dont forget to force AFx16 in control panel ha happy gaming.

[Jesse Dylan]

Originally posted by Physickl:

Well first of all this game is just over 7 years old, not 10 ;)
You wont be able to run this in 4k never mind uber sample lol, this game would not have been made and properly optimized for 4k back in those days, its a heavy true PC game...Dont know how/why you seem to think 20-60 FPS is good either!?

I have no idea about the mouse but yes 1440p sounds about right, it tells me to run uber at 1080p but i cant handle that, my FPS is worse than 4k without uber.

What i did was use gedosato to sample the display to 1440p from 1080p then use ultra SMAA with Lanczos scaling, its looks epic now and my FPS are solid and above 60, mostly around 80FPS so i dont have to worry about dips.

Honestly it doesnt even look that much different in 1080 to a 4k image in this game for some odd reason, it took me a couple of hours to run some side by side comparisons and decide what to do, i did try 3200x1800 and stayed mostly above 60 (just) but in cutscene and some points of the game it dips to 45ish and i couldnt be bothered with that mess.

I understand why you wouldnt want to use a lower resolution on a higher panel, but i really cant understand why you even have a 4k panel with just a 1070 card, its not really a 4k capable card, the 1080ti is however...Anyways i hope you find a solution until then good luck with it.

P.S Just use a gamepad guys, its better for most 3rd person games anyways?!

Oh and dont forget to force AFx16 in control panel ha happy gaming.

Yeah, game pad helped a lot.

I'm running in 4k now with everything on (except uber), and it's 40-60 fps, the exception being cutscenes, which are what range from 20-60 (I have no idea why). When I tried running at 1080p, I was getting 1000fps at some points... I think that is overkill.

I can run most stuff at 4k. Newer games, not so much. In this case, yes, 4k Witcher 2 does not really look any better than 1080p Witcher 2 would look on a 1080p monitor. 1080p stuff looks okay on my monitor, but, disappointingly, not as good as 4k. Alas.

I have a 4k TV and a PS4 Pro. I just wanted my PC experience to also be 4k. Again, usually do all right, with some exceptions. I don't mind running in muddy 1080p on new games (where I can usually max everything out), but when I can run Witcher 3 at 60fps in 4k, but have issues with Witcher 2... something is wrong.

[Jesse Dylan]

Originally posted by Lord_Baelish_AUS:

Hi Jesse,

I can't offer a solution, I'm afraid, but I can at least tell you that I'm also experiencing two critical issues with the game - one being constant camera stuttering that gives me headaches; and the other being "unfixable" slow mouse movement in every single game menu screen. This is despite the fact that I have The Witcher 1 on the same computer and all mouse movement in that game is 100% perfect.

With regards to the slow mouse, (please excuse me if I explain this badly) it appears to be (simple gamer that I am) because The Witcher 2 does not use default desktop mouse movement settings. It uses in game software settings instead. This would not be such an issue for you and I if it were fixable - but for the life of me I can't find a solution thus far. No mouse setting (e.g. mouse sensitivity) in the game settings, or even in the game config files themselves can change the mouse pointer speed in ANY of the game menu screens for me. I'm basically stuck with the low sensitivity that the game has set by default. Which is obviously a real ♥♥♥♥♥ because you do access your character screens and inventory screens a lot in The Witcher games.

I've already posted about my issues just a few minutes ago. If I can't find a solution here, then I'm about ready to simply give up on The Witcher 2 and skip straight to The Witcher 3, which is a real bummer for me because I've been looking forward to finishing ALL of this series since playing The Witcher years ago. Having to "skip" the second game in the series due to a "simple" fundamental game control issue doesn't exactly leave a pleasant taste in my mouth. But there's no point playing a game if it's no longer any fun (due to poor control issues).

So, sorry again to hear of your problems. I hope they get sorted...somehow! Just wanted to let you know that the whole slow mouse movement issues in all menus is not unique to you...

Sorry to hear of your problems too! I eventually just gave up and am using a gamepad now, which I highly recommend. The game seems to have been designed with a game pad in mind, too.

I also seem to remember things like triple buffering and "hardware mouse cursor" being options in games in the past. But yeah, apparently not for Witcher 2! So strange. But, using a gamepad, even my frame rate is fine now (although that should have absolutely no effect).

[Helen Magnus]

Well I'm glad I found this thread. I also have a GTX 1070 and am having some trouble with the mouse. Witcher 1 was fine. I'm going to switch over to my game pad and see if that is better. I refuse to give up on this game!

[Helen Magnus]

Try turning off steam cloud sync also. I did find a suggestion to delete some of the saves. That made my mouse more managable but I was still having problems with K&M. I just played some with the gamepad and found the fighting easier. Getting used to accessing the menus and the layout of the gamepad.

[zMertzi]

too much power is a burden i guess

[Albi]

Even though this was posted some time ago i will tell you that i use a gtx 6 series specifically the gtx 660 2gb gddr5 and im also having this lag issue even with low settings i think it's the game that's the issue not your card a 1070 is way more than enough to run this game if i can run it with a gtx 660 lol.

[Jesse Dylan]

Originally posted by Lord_Baelish_AUS:

Originally posted by Jesse Dylan:

Sorry to hear of your problems too! I eventually just gave up and am using a gamepad now, which I highly recommend. The game seems to have been designed with a game pad in mind, too.

I also seem to remember things like triple buffering and "hardware mouse cursor" being options in games in the past. But yeah, apparently not for Witcher 2! So strange. But, using a gamepad, even my frame rate is fine now (although that should have absolutely no effect).

Yes, improving your frame rate by switching to a gamepad makes no sense. Glad to hear, though, that it HAS worked, at least.

I might buy a gamepad too. Never used one before with when gaming on a PC...but they're not expensive and at least I can try it out and see what the experience it like with various games.

Does using a gamepad make it more difficult to navigate through the menus, though (e.g. use or move items around in the inventory screen, use signs in combat, etc)?

Sorry for the slow reply. I'm not having any issues using a gamepad, but I'm also used to console games! I just have a cheap old wired Xbox 360 pad that I plug in, and it uses it natively. For modern games on PC, I will sometimes connect a PS4 gamepad via bluetooth. Witcher 2 had support for Xbox 360 already though, so it's worked out pretty well.

My frame rate in 4k still ranges from 10fps to 1000fps, so... still not the best there (cutscenes are the only issue, who knows why--again, I can run all of The Witcher 3 on ultra in 4k (hairworks off) at 30-60fps.

[Cryiox]

Witcher 2, especially in 4K, is brutally hard. Even though it's a 2011 game, it's not a PS3/X360 game. It's a proper forward thinking, PC game. Don't be surprised by the low FPS at 4K.

[Cryiox]

Originally posted by Jesse Dylan:

but when I can run Witcher 3 at 60fps in 4k, but have issues with Witcher 2... something is wrong.

Also, yeah, no. RX 580/1060 barely reach 1080p60 on ultra. 1070 is a slight step up, but not even enough for 1440p60. You're not doing 4K60 on max in Witcher 3 with a 1070, lol.

[Jesse Dylan]

Originally posted by Cryiox:

Originally posted by Jesse Dylan:

but when I can run Witcher 3 at 60fps in 4k, but have issues with Witcher 2... something is wrong.

Also, yeah, no. RX 580/1060 barely reach 1080p60 on ultra. 1070 is a slight step up, but not even enough for 1440p60. You're not doing 4K60 on max in Witcher 3 with a 1070, lol.

Okay. Guess I must be hallucinating then, because as I said, runs 30-60fps just fine at 4k. Witcher 2 is fine except for the cutscenes, as I also said.

[Albi]

Originally posted by Jesse Dylan:

Originally posted by Cryiox:

Also, yeah, no. RX 580/1060 barely reach 1080p60 on ultra. 1070 is a slight step up, but not even enough for 1440p60. You're not doing 4K60 on max in Witcher 3 with a 1070, lol.

Okay. Guess I must be hallucinating then, because as I said, runs 30-60fps just fine at 4k. Witcher 2 is fine except for the cutscenes, as I also said.

Which gpu do you think can run most games on ultra at 1080p? Which would you recommend?

[Cryiox]

Originally posted by Gordon Freeman:

Which gpu do you think can run most games on ultra at 1080p? Which would you recommend?

Up until recently, 580 8 GB or 1060 6 GB was fine. Nowadays however for absolutely certainty for 1080p60 in games old and new, I'd say Vega 56, 1070 Ti or 2060.

[Jesse Dylan]

Originally posted by Gordon Freeman:

Originally posted by Jesse Dylan:

Okay. Guess I must be hallucinating then, because as I said, runs 30-60fps just fine at 4k. Witcher 2 is fine except for the cutscenes, as I also said.

Which gpu do you think can run most games on ultra at 1080p? Which would you recommend?

I'd actually recommend my 1070, or something equivalent. Sometimes I wish I'd gotten a 1080p monitor. I think 4K was overkill, but I didn't want to feel like my PC was taking a step behind my living room 4K TV and PS4 Pro!

[Alex]

strange. on my 1050 ti i have constant 60 fps on ultra