'Wait for evening'... WTF?!?

[GroundhogExpert]

First time playing Witcher 2, and I'm a few hours in and located in Fioravanti.

Just defeated the Kayran (great first boss battle, by the way), but now both of my available quests - Indecent Proposal & Fight Club - require for it to be 'evening.'

I can't tell if there's any 'passage of time' mechanic in the game, and I have no idea what can trigger the environment to become 'evening.'

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.




And by the way, getting stuck on these types of bull**** details that isn't properly explained within the game is why I usually stay away from RPGs.

[Furiey]

You can meditate until a particular time, in this case until it is evening. If you stop meditating too early meditate again for a bit longer, if you are a bit too late it really won't matter.

This is explained in the tutorial when you are asked to meditate until morning before they will let you into the arena.

[GroundhogExpert]

Originally posted by Furiey:

You can meditate until a particular time, in this case until it is evening. If you stop meditating too early meditate again for a bit longer, if you are a bit too late it really won't matter.

This is explained in the tutorial when you are asked to meditate until morning before they will let you into the arena.

Ah, completely forgot about that.

Didn't realize it'd have any significance of what quests would be available.

Thank you.

[thegrimeyone]

They literally explain everything for you in great detail in this game. It's on you for skipping tutorials.

[SmoCloud]

Originally posted by thegrimeyone:

They literally explain everything for you in great detail in this game. It's on you for skipping tutorials.

Wish I could agree, but since “evening” isn’t one of the options of time you can wait to, I’d agree with the OP that this game is really damn unclear about what it wants from you. Speaking as someone who’s played it for almost 30 hours now and speaking as someone who paid attention to every single detail in the tutorial and was fully aware of the meditation function and still found himself getting annoyed at quests asking me to wait for evening like I was suppose to know what that means. Evening isn’t an option, so am I suppose to guess what time that is by waiting to every reasonable hour is possibly could be until it triggers, like I got time to waste? Considering this post didn’t answer my question, which is “what specific hour is considered evening by this dumbass game?” Id say I’ve wasted my time reading this thread. I make this necro so people in the future who are looking for the answer to the same question they know that literally nobody here can or will help them.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by SmoCloud:

Originally posted by thegrimeyone:

They literally explain everything for you in great detail in this game. It's on you for skipping tutorials.

Wish I could agree, but since “evening” isn’t one of the options of time you can wait to, I’d agree with the OP that this game is really damn unclear about what it wants from you. Speaking as someone who’s played it for almost 30 hours now and speaking as someone who paid attention to every single detail in the tutorial and was fully aware of the meditation function and still found himself getting annoyed at quests asking me to wait for evening like I was suppose to know what that means. Evening isn’t an option, so am I suppose to guess what time that is by waiting to every reasonable hour is possibly could be until it triggers, like I got time to waste? Considering this post didn’t answer my question, which is “what specific hour is considered evening by this dumbass game?” Id say I’ve wasted my time reading this thread. I make this necro so people in the future who are looking for the answer to the same question they know that literally nobody here can or will help them.

I will literally tell you what Evening means since you skipped school the day they taught this.
Evening is the period of a day that begins at the end of daylight and overlaps with the beginning of night. Many people consider 5 pm to be the beginning of evening up until night time begins. Night (also described as nighttime, unconventionally spelled as "nite") is the period of ambient darkness from sunset to sunrise during each 24-hour day, when the Sun is below the horizon. The exact time when evening and therefore night begins and ends depends on the location and varies throughout the year, based on factors such as season and latitude.

Now, since we've established the commonly agreed world idea of what evening means, lets talk how that relates to a 24-hour period of time in a game such as this. This game works on a shortened version of our reality version of 24-hours but reduced so that 1 day in game isn't literally 1 day real time. So when you have to wait for evening and it's 7 am reality time you don't have to wait till 9 pm reality time to match the in game time. The Meditation dial is literally a clock face, if you were to know what one is, you would notice clocks have circular faces with 2 arrows or (hands) on them to point at the number that indicates the hour and minute. Some clocks have 3 or 4 to indicate seconds in a minute and day of the week. A Clock is what humans used to call a device that would tell them the time of day, you probably know it as a watch or the time on your phone.

Having established what a "clock" is, if you look at the meditation dial in the Witcher 2, it is the face of the aforementioned clock, the clock has four (4) points like a compass (a compass is a device that is used to determine the direction one is facing and help guide people to another location or locate one self on a map) (I shouldn't have to explain what a map is but I may have to edit this later) a Map is that thing that shows you your area in games, it's existed for thousands of years and did not only become a reality in games. Anyway, The aforementioned clock has 4 points, the top point is 12, the right side is 3, the lower end opposite of the 12 is the 6 and the left side is 9 each being an interval of the hours in a day, the clock is used to show the hour from the AM or morning time when night time ends, through to the evening and nighttime when evening ends, it recycles at 12 am and starts over. The clock hands are different sizes to indicate hours with the large hand and minutes with the smaller hand, most modern clocks include an even smaller hand to indicate seconds. The large hand will rotate to follow the smaller one to establish the minute within the hour you're in.

Having gone over how a "clock" works and how to read the information it provides, the aforementioned meditation dial is itself a clock but instead of a number twelve (12) to begin the cycle, it instead says "Noon" noon and 12:00 are synonymous (that means the same) in the PM, 12:00 AM is called "Midnight" in the same way. "Dawn" and "Dusk" are the indicators of the beginning and the end of nighttime or "nite" so if evening is between Noon and Night or more accurately 5 PM to Night, it can be assumed that the goal is to try and enter the Fort anywhere from 7 PM to Dusk. By meditating till Night, you are guaranteed to enter on time.

My suggestion is to meditate till it is Night, or just before it around 9 PM, How you know it's 9:00 is by the light in the sky and the lamps being lit in town, or simply by meditating till 9 PM by selecting it on the dial. I also suggest you finish Indecent Proposal and the Fight Club quests before you do the Kayran because of the Kayran trap parts you get in the fort during Indecent Proposal, once you complete that go back for the Fight Club that way you have the parts and gear you score in the fort during Indecent Proposal.

I hope you understand now. (edit P.S.) Or... you could just meditate and try again until they let you in. It's not rocket science, try stuff. Meditate for an hour and try again, med for an hour and try again, sheesh.

[brg]

Originally posted by Invader Zim:

Originally posted by SmoCloud:

Wish I could agree, but since “evening” isn’t one of the options of time you can wait to, I’d agree with the OP that this game is really damn unclear about what it wants from you. Speaking as someone who’s played it for almost 30 hours now and speaking as someone who paid attention to every single detail in the tutorial and was fully aware of the meditation function and still found himself getting annoyed at quests asking me to wait for evening like I was suppose to know what that means. Evening isn’t an option, so am I suppose to guess what time that is by waiting to every reasonable hour is possibly could be until it triggers, like I got time to waste? Considering this post didn’t answer my question, which is “what specific hour is considered evening by this dumbass game?” Id say I’ve wasted my time reading this thread. I make this necro so people in the future who are looking for the answer to the same question they know that literally nobody here can or will help them.

I will literally tell you what Evening means since you skipped school the day they taught this.
Evening is the period of a day that begins at the end of daylight and overlaps with the beginning of night. Many people consider 5 pm to be the beginning of evening up until night time begins. Night (also described as nighttime, unconventionally spelled as "nite") is the period of ambient darkness from sunset to sunrise during each 24-hour day, when the Sun is below the horizon. The exact time when evening and therefore night begins and ends depends on the location and varies throughout the year, based on factors such as season and latitude.

Now, since we've established the commonly agreed world idea of what evening means, lets talk how that relates to a 24-hour period of time in a game such as this. This game works on a shortened version of our reality version of 24-hours but reduced so that 1 day in game isn't literally 1 day real time. So when you have to wait for evening and it's 7 am reality time you don't have to wait till 9 pm reality time to match the in game time. The Meditation dial is literally a clock face, if you were to know what one is, you would notice clocks have circular faces with 2 arrows or (hands) on them to point at the number that indicates the hour and minute. Some clocks have 3 or 4 to indicate seconds in a minute and day of the week. A Clock is what humans used to call a device that would tell them the time of day, you probably know it as a watch or the time on your phone.

Having established what a "clock" is, if you look at the meditation dial in the Witcher 2, it is the face of the aforementioned clock, the clock has four (4) points like a compass (a compass is a device that is used to determine the direction one is facing and help guide people to another location or locate one self on a map) (I shouldn't have to explain what a map is but I may have to edit this later) a Map is that thing that shows you your area in games, it's existed for thousands of years and did not only become a reality in games. Anyway, The aforementioned clock has 4 points, the top point is 12, the right side is 3, the lower end opposite of the 12 is the 6 and the left side is 9 each being an interval of the hours in a day, the clock is used to show the hour from the AM or morning time when night time ends, through to the evening and nighttime when evening ends, it recycles at 12 am and starts over. The clock hands are different sizes to indicate hours with the large hand and minutes with the smaller hand, most modern clocks include an even smaller hand to indicate seconds. The large hand will rotate to follow the smaller one to establish the minute within the hour you're in.

Having gone over how a "clock" works and how to read the information it provides, the aforementioned meditation dial is itself a clock but instead of a number twelve (12) to begin the cycle, it instead says "Noon" noon and 12:00 are synonymous (that means the same) in the PM, 12:00 AM is called "Midnight" in the same way. "Dawn" and "Dusk" are the indicators of the beginning and the end of nighttime or "nite" so if evening is between Noon and Night or more accurately 5 PM to Night, it can be assumed that the goal is to try and enter the Fort anywhere from 7 PM to Dusk. By meditating till Night, you are guaranteed to enter on time.

My suggestion is to meditate till it is Night, or just before it around 9 PM, How you know it's 9:00 is by the light in the sky and the lamps being lit in town, or simply by meditating till 9 PM by selecting it on the dial. I also suggest you finish Indecent Proposal and the Fight Club quests before you do the Kayran because of the Kayran trap parts you get in the fort during Indecent Proposal, once you complete that go back for the Fight Club that way you have the parts and gear you score in the fort during Indecent Proposal.

I hope you understand now. (edit P.S.) Or... you could just meditate and try again until they let you in. It's not rocket science, try stuff. Meditate for an hour and try again, med for an hour and try again, sheesh.

One of the greatest educational smackdown replies of all time. Precision strikes to the carotid arteries using words. Had they the patience to read & absorb all the context, it could very well be humbling.

[t-blud]

unnecessarily unpleasant

"My suggestion is to meditate till it is Night, or just before it around 9 PM, How you know it's 9:00 is by the light in the sky and the lamps being lit in town, or simply by meditating till 9 PM by selecting it on the dial."

This would have sufficed