Batman Begins etc.

[nya[dc]]

Who would like to see a Christopher Nolan type take on a Batman game, something less animated, more true to life and something that could theoretically be possible?

The Arkham games seem to take on the attributes in a combination of the Tim Burton and Joel Schumacher style Batman which is highly fictionized, more so in the case of Schumacher. For once it would be nice to play a superhero game where the hero is really vulnerable and you can feel the pressure of it, that doesn't happen in these games and it partially retracts from the immersion...

I would like to see something more real that I could lose myself in.

[troublmaker]

The reason why movie games are usually ♥♥♥♥ and this one is particular good is creative freedom. The Batman movie games all had to follow along with the movie. The developers of the game were not allowed to take any creative twists. The team behind all the Arkham games had a pretty good understanding of who and what Batman is. He also (and more importantly) had a very strong understanding of who the Batman villains are and what they're all about.

This allowed them to create a unique never been told Batman story that involves gameplay mechanics they want to implement while still staying loyal to the fans and the content.

No movie IP game will ever be able to accomplish this.

[Wingus Dingus]

No, I would not want a Nolan style game. I don't like the movies, I prefer the comic book style worlds. I want to experience the Batman world not have Batman experience this world.

[nya[dc]]

Damn I didn't realize how many purists are around here, kind of sad due to the lack of creativeness that mindset brings...

[inouye]

Originally posted by Zagoner:

There was a Batman Begins game?

By the way, There IS a Batman Begins game, yes sir!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z2M6IHluWc

[Tox Laximus]

Game Batman is supernatual and much more hardcore, film Batman is various wimps in rubber suits using hidden wires and cgi, but I still like them.

[lmoffat1232]

Originally posted by Nya`:

Damn I didn't realize how many purists are around here, kind of sad due to the lack of creativeness that mindset brings...

the comics far exceed the movies in terms of creativeness so if anything the movies are shallow and lack creativeness.

If you are a Batman comic fan then you have obviously been mind controlled by Ivy, if not then you have no buissness messing with the most accurate Batman of all time.

the door is to your left.

[Hatefuldread]

No, a game based on the movies wouldnt be any good, the game is based to much on realism compared to the Batman we know and love, he barely uses any gadgets and the bad guys are just normal guys, Bane was just some random merc in a mask.

A game based on that universe would just be a normal beat'em'up with the Batman name.

[nya[dc]]

Originally posted by lmoffat1232:

Originally posted by Nya`:

Damn I didn't realize how many purists are around here, kind of sad due to the lack of creativeness that mindset brings...

the comics far exceed the movies in terms of creativeness so if anything the movies are shallow and lack creativeness.

If you are a Batman comic fan then you have obviously been mind controlled by Ivy, if not then you have no buissness messing with the most accurate Batman of all time.

the door is to your left.

Creativeness exists in multiple capacities, if you're just basically copying and pasting from the comic there is nothing creative taking place, that creative process took place decades ago and is being rehashed. Creating something out of the norm though, something real, something feasible like Nolan did with the Batman franchise is real time creativity and change happening in the now..

Nolan bridged a gap with his take on Batman, he turned it into something believable, something people could relate to and think to themselves "this could actually happen". It brings with it a new dynamic and put the fanbase closer in touch with the character and what was going on, that does not happen in these games.

The games are great fun and I enjoyed both of them, however there was always a disconnect due to the ridiculousness of it all. It would be nice to play a game where you are actually living the believable life of Bruce Wayne and Batman, something a billionaire playboy who is in great shape could theoretically do given the technology and his financial position in the world, something real...

Obviously people in this community are far too closed minded and puristly engrained to understand the want for something more intrinsically tied in with real life, the entire premise in which Batman is roughly based around. A normal guy who is insanely rich, in good shape and uses the technology at his disposal to turn into who he is...

[lmoffat1232]

Originally posted by Nya`:

Originally posted by lmoffat1232:

the comics far exceed the movies in terms of creativeness so if anything the movies are shallow and lack creativeness.

If you are a Batman comic fan then you have obviously been mind controlled by Ivy, if not then you have no buissness messing with the most accurate Batman of all time.

the door is to your left.

Creativeness exists in multiple capacities, if you're just basically copying and pasting from the comic there is nothing creative taking place, that creative process took place decades ago and is being rehashed. Creating something out of the norm though, something real, something feasible like Nolan did with the Batman franchise is real time creativity and change happening in the now..

Nolan bridged a gap with his take on Batman, he turned it into something believable, something people could relate to and think to themselves "this could actually happen". It brings with it a new dynamic and put the fanbase closer in touch with the character and what was going on, that does not happen in these games.

The games are great fun and I enjoyed both of them, however there was always a disconnect due to the ridiculousness of it all. It would be nice to play a game where you are actually living the believable life of Bruce Wayne and Batman, something a billionaire playboy who is in great shape could theoretically do given the technology and his financial position in the world, something real...

Obviously people in this community are far too closed minded and puristly engrained to understand the want for something more intrinsically tied in with real life, the entire premise in which Batman is roughly based around. A normal guy who is insanely rich, in good shape and uses the technology at his disposal to turn into who he is...

If you want real life go outside, i never felt disconected from the batman comics but i felt disconected from the nolanverse. It's not wrong to be a purist as it's respect to batman's origional medium.

I and many others enjoy reading the outlandish stuff (hense the popularity of superman) a realistic batman doesn't work and so you should just except what we have as a good character within an unrealistic universe.

When did you become a fan of batman? was it the animated series? Knightfall? no mans land? New 52? or was it that piece of crap trilogy that is a betrayel to everything batman is.

[Barney Google]

Originally posted by lmoffat1232:

If you want real life go outside, i never felt disconected from the batman comics but i felt disconected from the nolanverse. It's not wrong to be a purist as it's respect to batman's origional medium.

I and many others enjoy reading the outlandish stuff (hense the popularity of superman) a realistic batman doesn't work and so you should just except what we have as a good character within an unrealistic universe.

When did you become a fan of batman? was it the animated series? Knightfall? no mans land? New 52? or was it that piece of crap trilogy that is a betrayel to everything batman is.

There's a difference between real life and a realistic version of Batman. Why do you want to convince people that the movies are bad? Why not just accept that some people enjoy the movies and some prefer the comics...I'd wager some people even enjoy both!

Some would even consider modern Batman to be a betrayal of what Batman started as...When he used guns and was a straight up detective.

TL;DR: Can't we all just get along?

[Paul]

let him have his cry then he can suckle on mummy's teat and have a nap.

[Dan_the_pest]

Here's my problem with this whole "realistic Batman" thing people are clamoring for. No matter how normal you make the villains or how realistic and human you make Bruce Wayne, you still have a story about a guy who dresses like a bat and flies around with zip wires. The realism clashes with the silly outfit even more than it does in a world where the rest of the world is just as silly and ridiculous.

Personally, I'm a fan of games and comics BECAUSE they don't have to be realistic. They CAN be outlandish, and have so much more freedom to tell a great story. And they don't have a 2 hour time limit, which means you can have well rounded characters and a good story. Nolan's Batman universe was boring to me because for all its realism, the characters were all very flat and one dimensional.

Also, if Bale's Batman voice didn't make the whole Batman premise ridiculous, I don't think you can gripe about comic book silliness.

[nya[dc]]

Originally posted by Barney Google:

There's a difference between real life and a realistic version of Batman. Why do you want to convince people that the movies are bad? Why not just accept that some people enjoy the movies and some prefer the comics...I'd wager some people even enjoy both!

Some would even consider modern Batman to be a betrayal of what Batman started as...When he used guns and was a straight up detective.

TL;DR: Can't we all just get along?

Solid post and quite true about the movies, they were amazingly successful, well done and loved by tens of millions, people around here just go nuts to bash them and this brings me to another point, you don't have to tackle something from the same point of view every single time and follow every aspect of the comic books, they are 70 years old and tired....

Has anyone here seen multi-development of a game before? Two studios are given the same task and supposed to create the same game, an amazing thing happens. You get the premise of what was given to both teams but in the end each is a different game as it was created by different people with their own spin to it.

Case in point...

Xbox, PC and Gamecube version (Go to 1:25)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9-QWnFLJvA

PlayStation 2 version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82vAX2QiNH0

This game was developed by two completely separate branches of EA, EA Seattle and EA Black Box, they literally created the game twice and released both. The version for PC, Gamecube and Xbox was a completely different game than the version for the PS2, same idea but completely different.

The PlayStation 2 version of the game was substantially better and the production value was over the top in comparison. When you bring options to a franchise, approach it from different angles it is actually possible to create something far better than the original or what else has come before, just because something came first or is how it is doesn't mean it's the best it could have been done or will be done in the future.

[Salvation]

Nolan's trilogy had some great performances (Heath Ledger's Joker, obviously). It had its moments. But I really have to agree, it's just boring.

As Dan said, the entire "realism" thing just collapses when you stand back and look at the premise. Especially that voice.

Not to mention that, in my opinion, Bane was absolutely butchered as a character in TDKR.

I have so much respect for Rocksteady because they have respect for Batman. All these details throughout Asylum and City. The bios, the easter eggs. Everything. They put such a natural and fitting spin that grounds the universe in the middle. Not too realistic, but definitely not anywhere near cartoony.

It's just the perfect "vision" of Batman, in my opinion. Conroy voice. Intimidating (Bodybuilder lol) appearance. Fitting gadgets.

It connects with every Batman fan, movie or comics/animated series.

[Gab0]

I would love to see a game like that. I mean all the ports that have com from the Nolan Batman Series have sucked hard. I would love to play a game with Nolan Batman in Nolan Gotham City. All this cartonish villans and atmosphere is pretty childish to me at least, I still love the arkham series but I would definitely LOVE a Nolan Batman Universe based game.


pd: TDK suit kicks ass and also the tumbler, if they put a rideable tumbler and batpod on it, I'm in.