Batman™: Arkham Origins

Batman™: Arkham Origins

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lowix Nov 5, 2013 @ 7:25pm
Got to deathstroke now I think I have to quit
The game was fun, but I got to deathstroke and I can't beat him. I just don't counter a lot of his moves, I don't know if my wireless mouse isn't repsonve or the game is just broke. I know I'll get some learn to play noob, which I'll I have is yes I'm a noob at these games, and I hate boss fights of any kind.
Is there a cheat or something that just lets me skip the boss fights? I would like to see the rest of the game. I looked and I didn't see where I can change the setting to easy mode.
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startrekmike Nov 5, 2013 @ 7:34pm 
Deathstroke is really a tough boss if you don't know what you really need to do, make sure you counter him when the indicator shows that he is going to attack, when he does not attack, use the batclaw (hotkey 2) to drag him to you so you can hurt him a bit.

It is a long fight, don't overextend your counterattacks, just get a hit or two in and then back off or else he will counter attack you, just keep doing it and eventually you will learn how it all works.

Really, don't give up, that is kinda a lame thing to do and it would be a waste of money on your part really.

lowix Nov 5, 2013 @ 7:35pm 
When is the exact time that you need to counter? When the lines apear above his head? 1ms prior to impact? What are the tolerances? +- 2ns? Where is the datasheet and specs on what is considered a counter.
lowix Nov 5, 2013 @ 7:36pm 
Well ive been at it for over an hour and its been a frustrating hour. If the game gets harder, I simeply just don't care to waist my time
Niro55 Nov 5, 2013 @ 7:48pm 
Don't worry, he's the hardest/most annoying (either apply) boss in the game, it goes uphill from there.
lowix Nov 5, 2013 @ 7:52pm 
OK finally beat him. That was a horrible fight, I never want to do anything like that again.
Some things I learned
Only press counter once. If you accendently hit it 2 times it wont counter. After all blocking twice is real life always means you don't block (sarcasm).
Counter about 500ms (half second) after you see the lines above his head.
Interupt his attacks as much as possible with pressing 1 and 2.

Thanks for the posts that kept me going.
Cyotey Nov 5, 2013 @ 7:52pm 
Personally I found Deathstroke to be the easiest boss in the game. All you really do with him for the most part is counter. Firefly and Bane are a ♥♥♥♥♥ to defeat. Gotta dodge Firefly's flamethrower with somersaults and same with Bane's charges. Although Bane doesn't just go in a straight line like he does in Asylum. He actually follows your movements and you need to time dodging better.
Cyotey Nov 5, 2013 @ 8:10pm 
Originally posted by Absconditus:
Originally posted by Frillin:
Personally I found Deathstroke to be the easiest boss in the game. All you really do with him for the most part is counter. Firefly and Bane are a ♥♥♥♥♥ to defeat. Gotta dodge Firefly's flamethrower with somersaults and same with Bane's charges. Although Bane doesn't just go in a straight line like he does in Asylum. He actually follows your movements and you need to time dodging better.

Firefly's easy, super easy. Just cheeze it by throwing quickfire Glue Grenade then 3 quickfire Batarange, Glue grenade, Batarangs, etc. until you can do the quickfire Batclaw. He can hardly do anything at all. When the quicktime-cutscene plays at the end as you grapple to him, just keep pressing counter (important on NG+ and IATN mode, as there's no prompts).

Bane is also not too hard. Wait a bit before you dodge away from him to avoid him homing in on you. When he leaps to you, dodge towards him and start using your cape stun 3 times. Beatdown and takedown, then cape him and do it again. After that just be cheap and spam quickfire batarangs on the thugs until they're taken out, then do a hit on Bane to trigger the next charge-sequence. For the fight at the end of the game, it's pretty much the same deal until you get infinite shock gloves, at that point just dodge around over the thugs to avoid his charges, dodge towards him when he does the leap, then just start pummeling him, as you don't need to stun him with the cape when you got the shock gloves active. Rinse repeat.
Oh wow I'm an idiot. First time I fought him it prompted me to throw a glue grenade and I didn't do it this time around. I gotta remember that for sure in I Am the Night. I still gotta get the challenges done too...I wonder if I did the challenges in the Batcave if it would count those deaths?
Cyotey Nov 5, 2013 @ 8:20pm 
Originally posted by Absconditus:
Originally posted by Frillin:
I wonder if I did the challenges in the Batcave if it would count those deaths?
I never actually did Challenges on IATN mode, but I am fairly sure you wouldn't reset the game if you failed one there. Quick tip for breezing through Combat challenges: Beatdown, counter, destroy weapon (and shock gloves). Your only tools. Basically do a cape swipe to stun a target, start to beatdown, when a enemy attacks, counter, then push towards the enemy you were doing a beatdown on and continue attacking. If you see a shield or a stunstick in the group, use the destroy weapon takedown on those to remove them, as they can quickly destroy your perfect rounds. It's not a big deal if you get hit, as long as you get to the latter stages of the Challenges and are able to pull off some good high number combos, you'll easily get enough points. If you don't want to continue gaining points after getting 3 medals, just start knocking the remaining enemies down and do the AoE takedown to speed it up. A note about the shock gloves, activate them when you have initiated a counter on another enemy during the beatdown, easier way to not make any mistakes and get hit by a incoming attack.

Other small tips: When you get shock gloves, try to focus down ninja characters quickly, as they can't counter you while they're active, and can be seriously annoying with their 3 attacks that you have to counter. If someone tries to knife you, practice getting the take down. It shouldn't be too hard to get the hang of. Hold back and hold counter for the first swing, then let go of the counter button and press and hold it again immediately for the next swing, do it again and you'll take out the enemy. Those take outs are worth some of the best points, so doing them while on high combo counts will quickly earn you a lot of points.
I don't have combat disarm...I haven't completed all the challenges. I'll have to be very careful when doing so now.
Mr.2k9 Nov 5, 2013 @ 8:34pm 
easiest fight for me is anarky,black mask and shiva. though i find deathstroke to be easy too now but it still hurt if you fail counter properly... shiva the fastest for me i think cause i only need to hit her and leave her thug alone to complete it...
Shin Dan Nov 5, 2013 @ 9:05pm 
Most of the fight is one big counter session, however when it comes to the knife you need to speed up your reactions, as he strikes a bit faster when you do the counter dance of joy.
Lol OP, someone isn't a gamer! A game has a mechanic where button smashing isn't the way to win and and you freak out over it. I found it a good challenge and had to adjust. If you cannot adjust then this really isn't your game. I'm also guessing you're playing on normal? Try hard, now that's fun!
lowix Nov 5, 2013 @ 9:16pm 
I'm a statagy gamer. I tend to hate all platformers and FPS. I got this game free with an Nvidia card, so I gave it a try. So no I'm not your type of gamer.
CLBrown Oct 31, 2020 @ 12:19pm 
Originally posted by GalacticPimpWithaLimp:
Lol OP, someone isn't a gamer! A game has a mechanic where button smashing isn't the way to win and and you freak out over it. I found it a good challenge and had to adjust. If you cannot adjust then this really isn't your game. I'm also guessing you're playing on normal? Try hard, now that's fun!
Oh, looky... the child thinks he's superior because he can smash buttons fast.

What kind of a sad little brat feels the need to mock people who have lives outside of sitting in a darkened room mashing buttons? (sigh)

The problem with this sort of element in a game is that it's not about "thinking through" the situation... it's instead about "figuring out the timing pattern the game programmers invented."

For people who like to immerse themselves in game worlds... where it's a "virtual reality" experience where they get to imagine themselves in these situations, doing these things... this sort of poor game design is utterly UN-IMMERSIVE.

Any element which reminds you "I'm trying to learn the button-mashing pattern the programmers thought up" rather than "I'm trying to fight this person" immediately ruins the immersion of the gaming experience.
CLBrown Oct 31, 2020 @ 10:08pm 
Originally posted by .Ivan:
Originally posted by CLBrown:
Oh, looky... the child thinks he's superior because he can smash buttons fast.

What kind of a sad little brat feels the need to mock people who have lives outside of sitting in a darkened room mashing buttons? (sigh)

The problem with this sort of element in a game is that it's not about "thinking through" the situation... it's instead about "figuring out the timing pattern the game programmers invented."

For people who like to immerse themselves in game worlds... where it's a "virtual reality" experience where they get to imagine themselves in these situations, doing these things... this sort of poor game design is utterly UN-IMMERSIVE.

Any element which reminds you "I'm trying to learn the button-mashing pattern the programmers thought up" rather than "I'm trying to fight this person" immediately ruins the immersion of the gaming experience.
you're just bad idiot
Hmmmm... I've flown actual combat aircraft...

Nah, kiddo, I don't think so. But feel free to pretend that you're "awesome" for living in a cheetos-dust-covered basement, with the only part of your body in anything remotely akin to "good physical condition" being your thumbs.

This is a GAME. The point of a game is to be entertaining. That you seem to think that having quick thumbs makes you "kewl" is just... well.. pathetic.

This game has issues. The issues are well-known. The prior two "Arkham" games have only minor issues of this type. None required "rote memorization of keypress sequences."

Any game which requires that is... yep... "just bad."

And any child, like you, who thinks being "awesome at games" makes him "awesome" in reality... well... it makes you an idiot.

So, go ahead and try "insulting" me again.
AJ Nov 1, 2020 @ 7:16pm 
try with a controller or just learn more cause he's honestly the easiest boss in the game in my opinion
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