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A quote from the joker:
"Ladies and Gentlemen! You've read about it in the papers! Now witness, before your very eyes, that most rare and tragic of nature's mistakes! I give you: the average man. Physically unremarkable, it instead possesses a deformed set of values. Notice the hideously bloated sense of humanity's importance. Also note the club-footed social conscience and the withered optimism. It's certainly not for the squeamish, is it? Most repulsive of all, are its frail and useless notions of order and sanity. If too much weight is placed upon them... they snap. How does it live, I hear you ask? How does this poor pathetic specimen survive in today's harsh and irrational environment? I'm afraid the sad answer is, "Not very well." Faced with the inescapable fact that human existence is mad, random, and pointless, one in eight of them crack up and go stark slavering buggo! Who can blame them? In a world as psychotic as this... any other response would be crazy!"
Joker doesn't REALLY want to kill himself. I mean, he's completely prepared to die, but that's not really the goal. he just enjoys ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with people's heads, esp Batman's.
In fact it is the goal of the joker to get killed by the batman because that would mean, he made batman to loose control. Therefore the joker would have won.
I see what you're saying, While that could be considered to be killing himself in a sense, I still don't think that suicide is the ultimate goal. Rather, it is simply a means to an end.
Well no. Batman does not ~let~ him die, there was simply nothing he could do to save him at that point. It's Joker's own fault that the remaining cure was destroyed.
If anything Batman becomes depressed by his failure to save him. This is touched upon in the Harley's Revenge DLC.
SPOILERS...
When Joker basically kills himself by stabbing Batman causing him to drop the cure meaning Joker can't take it, Batman blames himself for the Joker's death. It's obvious it affects him in Harley Quinn's Revenge as we don't see the Batman we're used to, he's more withdrawn and angry.
The Joker seems like a clown, but hardly anything of what he does is an act, this is HIM. All of it combined.
The more people the Joker kills, Batman feels more guilty. But letting him die is the one thing he can't do. In "The Dark Knight Returns" Joker finally died, after he and Batman got in a very bloody fight, in the end he was down with his neck almost broken. But still Batman could not kill him, so the Joker used his last strenth to kill himself, so the people who saw the start of the fight would blame Bats.
On several occasions he could have learned Batmans identity, but he refused. In fact he murdered once the person who wanted to tell him who Batman was. He doesn't want to know, he wants the game to go on until one of them is dead.
Btw, there are several versions of who Joker was and he never tells two persons the same story. That red hood thing ... in one version he tells people that he was a stage actor who was forced to wear that mask. That's the most popular version, but no version of the Joker origin story is official. What we see in the game could also be just his immagination, I am not sure that even he knows his own former identity and is abolutely sure about it.
Both Batman and Joker are sociopaths, Batman maybe even more than the Joker himself, but he decided for another path in his life, decided to do the right thing. He is not that softie we see in the latest movies, he is a very sick person, trapped under the curse he created himself. He is not able to accept any compromise, he must go until he falls - even if it happens while he saves his worst enemy.
In the Arkhamverse, Joker has already told two people the same story, Harley in AO and Strange in AC, I myself think the Arkham games have already picked that as his "official" origin, but then again, I think the less we know about a character the more interesting he becomes, the Joker having a multiple choice past has always been an interesting idea, it's basicly an invitation to make your own version.