Batman™: Arkham Origins

Batman™: Arkham Origins

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Joker fall from the roof,and batman catched joker in the air and protected him from impact with his body,and joker tired to kill himself with the pistol,batman saved his ♥♥♥ again.joker is madness,I did not watch the original Batman DC comic books,but i remember joker was called the Red Hood before he ,Seems batman caused his insanity,is that batman feel guilty so he can not let joker die??
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Because, he is the silend the guardian ,the watchfull protector .... THE DARK KNIGHT ! Read Killing joke comic for joker origin, batman cant just let people die. Two of them are bound together one will make ♥♥♥♥ and be bad guy and batman will always save the day and be hero, so they are exist thanks to each other, they need each other. :deathstroke:
SW00$h 5 febr. 2014 la 11:36 
Read "the killing joke" for further informations.Great comic, among the best i have ever read.

A quote from the joker:

"Ladies and Gentlemen! You've read about it in the papers! Now witness, before your very eyes, that most rare and tragic of nature's mistakes! I give you: the average man. Physically unremarkable, it instead possesses a deformed set of values. Notice the hideously bloated sense of humanity's importance. Also note the club-footed social conscience and the withered optimism. It's certainly not for the squeamish, is it? Most repulsive of all, are its frail and useless notions of order and sanity. If too much weight is placed upon them... they snap. How does it live, I hear you ask? How does this poor pathetic specimen survive in today's harsh and irrational environment? I'm afraid the sad answer is, "Not very well." Faced with the inescapable fact that human existence is mad, random, and pointless, one in eight of them crack up and go stark slavering buggo! Who can blame them? In a world as psychotic as this... any other response would be crazy!"
Editat ultima dată de SW00$h; 5 febr. 2014 la 11:37
Buck 5 febr. 2014 la 11:39 
Because He Is Batman, and he does not kill. It's kind of a fundamental aspect of the Character.

Joker doesn't REALLY want to kill himself. I mean, he's completely prepared to die, but that's not really the goal. he just enjoys ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with people's heads, esp Batman's.
SW00$h 5 febr. 2014 la 11:40 
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Because He Is Batman, and he does not kill. It's kind of a fundamental aspect of the Character.

Joker doesn't REALLY want to kill himself. I mean, he's completely prepared to die, but that's not really the goal. he just enjoys ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with people's heads, esp Batman's.

In fact it is the goal of the joker to get killed by the batman because that would mean, he made batman to loose control. Therefore the joker would have won.
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Postat inițial de Buck:
Because He Is Batman, and he does not kill. It's kind of a fundamental aspect of the Character.

Joker doesn't REALLY want to kill himself. I mean, he's completely prepared to die, but that's not really the goal. he just enjoys ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with people's heads, esp Batman's.

In fact it is the goal of the joker to get killed by the batman because that would mean, he made batman to loose control. Therefore the joker would have won.
In Batman: Arkham City,Batman let joker die,looks like batman are tired of joker's bullsh$t,arrest,escape,and kill more innocent man.arrest again,and joker will escape again,looks like kill joker is the only way
Buck 5 febr. 2014 la 20:15 
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In fact it is the goal of the joker to get killed by the batman because that would mean, he made batman to loose control. Therefore the joker would have won.

I see what you're saying, While that could be considered to be killing himself in a sense, I still don't think that suicide is the ultimate goal. Rather, it is simply a means to an end.

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In Batman: Arkham City,Batman let joker die,looks like batman are tired of joker's bullsh$t,arrest,escape,and kill more innocent man.arrest again,and joker will escape again,looks like kill joker is the only way

Well no. Batman does not ~let~ him die, there was simply nothing he could do to save him at that point. It's Joker's own fault that the remaining cure was destroyed.
If anything Batman becomes depressed by his failure to save him. This is touched upon in the Harley's Revenge DLC.
Editat ultima dată de Buck; 5 febr. 2014 la 20:16
easy 6 febr. 2014 la 6:04 
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Joker fall from the roof,and batman catched joker in the air and protected him from impact with his body,and joker tired to kill himself with the pistol,batman saved his ♥♥♥ again.joker is madness,I did not watch the original Batman DC comic books,but i remember joker was called the Red Hood before he ,Seems batman caused his insanity,is that batman feel guilty so he can not let joker die??
That's Batman's weakness and Joker profits with it,he always tries Batman and always knows he won't kill him,it's in Batman's moral code to not kill,but Joker's goal is to get killed by Batman,because he knows Batman won't stop after that.
Editat ultima dată de easy; 6 febr. 2014 la 6:07
I agree with that why batman saved him. He didn't kill him, but he didn't need to save him either!
It's his one rule to not kill people BUT leaving them in the snow with open wounds is OK, and apparently he can't kill but he doesn't have to save you.
That's the huge thing in Arkham City.

SPOILERS...

When Joker basically kills himself by stabbing Batman causing him to drop the cure meaning Joker can't take it, Batman blames himself for the Joker's death. It's obvious it affects him in Harley Quinn's Revenge as we don't see the Batman we're used to, he's more withdrawn and angry.
easy 7 febr. 2014 la 7:23 
I think batman should have more fun with riddler
Muffin 7 febr. 2014 la 13:22 
Batman's only rule is to never kill, because not killing is the only thing that sets him apart from the villains he takes down, because if he kills, althought he goal would not be the same, the actions would be exact, he'd become what he fights, a criminal. Batman didn't let Joker die, he saved half the cure for Joker, it's the joker who stabbed batman in the shoulder like an idiot and batman couldn't handle the pain and the cure fell from his hands, Batman even says right before Joker dies that after all he's done, he would have saved him. The Joker didn't try to kill himself, he was just acting like he was to see if batman will save him again or not.
Neumi 7 febr. 2014 la 15:37 
Oh, Joker was definitly trying to kill himself, that's part of what he is. He doesn't care if he lives or dies, all he wants is to see everything go to pieces. The one day Batman would let him die would be the day Joker finally won. He knows Batman will save him, but he is not bluffing at all.
The Joker seems like a clown, but hardly anything of what he does is an act, this is HIM. All of it combined.
The more people the Joker kills, Batman feels more guilty. But letting him die is the one thing he can't do. In "The Dark Knight Returns" Joker finally died, after he and Batman got in a very bloody fight, in the end he was down with his neck almost broken. But still Batman could not kill him, so the Joker used his last strenth to kill himself, so the people who saw the start of the fight would blame Bats.
On several occasions he could have learned Batmans identity, but he refused. In fact he murdered once the person who wanted to tell him who Batman was. He doesn't want to know, he wants the game to go on until one of them is dead.

Btw, there are several versions of who Joker was and he never tells two persons the same story. That red hood thing ... in one version he tells people that he was a stage actor who was forced to wear that mask. That's the most popular version, but no version of the Joker origin story is official. What we see in the game could also be just his immagination, I am not sure that even he knows his own former identity and is abolutely sure about it.


Both Batman and Joker are sociopaths, Batman maybe even more than the Joker himself, but he decided for another path in his life, decided to do the right thing. He is not that softie we see in the latest movies, he is a very sick person, trapped under the curse he created himself. He is not able to accept any compromise, he must go until he falls - even if it happens while he saves his worst enemy.
Editat ultima dată de Neumi; 7 febr. 2014 la 15:39
easy 7 febr. 2014 la 23:15 
Postat inițial de Neumi:
Oh, Joker was definitly trying to kill himself, that's part of what he is. He doesn't care if he lives or dies, all he wants is to see everything go to pieces. The one day Batman would let him die would be the day Joker finally won. He knows Batman will save him, but he is not bluffing at all.
The Joker seems like a clown, but hardly anything of what he does is an act, this is HIM. All of it combined.
The more people the Joker kills, Batman feels more guilty. But letting him die is the one thing he can't do. In "The Dark Knight Returns" Joker finally died, after he and Batman got in a very bloody fight, in the end he was down with his neck almost broken. But still Batman could not kill him, so the Joker used his last strenth to kill himself, so the people who saw the start of the fight would blame Bats.
On several occasions he could have learned Batmans identity, but he refused. In fact he murdered once the person who wanted to tell him who Batman was. He doesn't want to know, he wants the game to go on until one of them is dead.

Btw, there are several versions of who Joker was and he never tells two persons the same story. That red hood thing ... in one version he tells people that he was a stage actor who was forced to wear that mask. That's the most popular version, but no version of the Joker origin story is official. What we see in the game could also be just his immagination, I am not sure that even he knows his own former identity and is abolutely sure about it.


Both Batman and Joker are sociopaths, Batman maybe even more than the Joker himself, but he decided for another path in his life, decided to do the right thing. He is not that softie we see in the latest movies, he is a very sick person, trapped under the curse he created himself. He is not able to accept any compromise, he must go until he falls - even if it happens while he saves his worst enemy.
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Bite 8 febr. 2014 la 1:39 
Postat inițial de Neumi:

Btw, there are several versions of who Joker was and he never tells two persons the same story. That red hood thing ... in one version he tells people that he was a stage actor who was forced to wear that mask. That's the most popular version, but no version of the Joker origin story is official. What we see in the game could also be just his immagination, I am not sure that even he knows his own former identity and is abolutely sure about it.

In the Arkhamverse, Joker has already told two people the same story, Harley in AO and Strange in AC, I myself think the Arkham games have already picked that as his "official" origin, but then again, I think the less we know about a character the more interesting he becomes, the Joker having a multiple choice past has always been an interesting idea, it's basicly an invitation to make your own version.

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