Is there anywhere to do Worst Nightmare #6 besides the Bank?

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

GO TO POST #3 for current situation please. STUPID game!














Trying it in the STeel Mill right now, but none of the walls will work for the Gel kill. They are all those weak punch walls. Not sure the hanging ledge one will work in here anyways either.

BAnk I thought i got and then reading the board I realized that the stupid Hanging Ledge Takedown description is wrong so I missed it. My latest previous save was like 3 days ago so it is pretty much the beginning of the game and be like starting over.

[JonoAMano]

See this post for Earliest Worst Nightmare opportunities:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/209000/discussions/0/45350791086742775/#c45350791346461097

Feel free to copy and paste to a document. WN Rank 06 Hanging Ledge Takedown is misleading. Should be named Reverse Ledge Takedown or Reverse Choke Takedown in menus. See following video for procedure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TvurdbjceM
You might have to re-do WN Rank 06 in the bank first-run during the Deadshot mission. Hope this helps.

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

Helps a lot. Thanks. :)

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

OK after failing to get the Worst Nightmare #6 in bank with Joker because of bad game being bad with bad description on bad game bad. I did all of them that time so used the vents, gel, etc., but as you all know the ledge one is described wrong so it saved before I knew this and couldn't go back. Jono kindly gave me hope to do it later with Deadshot mission in the bank.

Got to that Deadshot mission and figured Worst Nightmare #6 would work here, BUT the breakable wooden panels for the 2 spots to do the gel takedown are already broken from last time I was there as well as the vents I used to get that one are gone too! Pretty much impossible to do this with them all gone? Shouldn't they reset for this new mission?? :/

Is there any way you know to reset all these things by deleting a file and putting the save back in, or something? Some command?

This really sucks since it defintiely sounds like it is the only place to do it and I guess I have no way to do it now until in NG+ then with the first encoutner with Joker? CAn you even do these in NG+? Is NG+ starting the story over, or jsut wandering around doing stuff you didn't do yet?

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

DAmmit. Lookign on Google nobody says anything about being able to do this. All I see are peopel saying you can do it in the Deadshot room if you didn't break the walls, or vents earlier of course.

God I hate AUTOSAVE games with no save slots. Obviously we can copy our saves and put them in a folder to go back to, but it's nto really a thing you think about the first time through expecting the game not to be a problem with things like this.

[JonoAMano]

I'll talk you through this. NOTE: this procedural is with Explosive Gel fully upgraded; on first playthroughs I recommend not upgrading the ExpGel until after WN 06 for better control. Map can be beaten unseen. I recommend making backup saves for the WN tasks just in case:
Steam \ userdata \ Steam User Number \ 209000 \ remote \ SpSave_v2_0.sgd

Arriving at the Bank for the Black Mask mission, enter through the roof clock tower. Collect one DataPack and use the Disruptor on alarm. Hack WayneTech panel using Crytographic Sequencer. Enter the Bank.

Coordinates: Where you enter the Bank is North; the access vent for the vault is South. Prep the vents in the East/West staircases; leave the inner vents in those offices alone. Collect the underfloor DataPack near the South vault door. Now open the vent on the South wall and enter vault. Discharge ExpGel to begin cutscene.

After the cutscene you auto-grapple to the South gargoyle, clicking Detective Vision to mark the Jammer Thug. Click DV off and immediately glide to the Northwest forward ledge closest to the bridge. As that thug wanders underneath, silently perform a Reverse Ledge Takedown, listed in menu as Hanging Ledge Takedown. Grapple up and over the railing to perform a frontal Corner Takedown on the Jammer Thug in the West stairwell. You can now scan the room.

Crouch-walk to the Southeast weak wall and apply ExpGel facing North. Grapple up to the West gargoyle and wait, selecting either Sonic Batarang or Remote Control Batarang. As the thugs react to Joker's voiceover, use the RCBatarang on full boost to push one of the thugs into the East office closest to the vent, or use the Sonic Batarang to lure a thug into the office near the East vent. Glide to the East staircase unseen and perform Vent Takedown. Get out of there unseen (backtrack through the vent) and grapple to the North gargoyle.

Now you can use either the Sonic Batarang to bait the Exploding Gel Takedown or the RC Batarang on full boost to push a thug into the Southeast ExpGel-prepped weak wall. Or both. Take down the remaining thugs unseen for extra XP.

The first takedown is crucial. It's easier to perform the first two takedowns if the thugs aren't panicked, so perform the Hanging Ledge Takedown silently. If you goof or are spotted, restart from checkpoint. If any of the takedowns don't register before vanquishing the remaining thugs, restart from checkpoint. I also recommend a checkpoint restart if you destroy more than one wall; two walls could take down multiple enemies and invalidate the achievement when the game auto-saves.

Hope this helps. Let us know how it goes.

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

Thanks. I'll let you know when I get there in NG+. I have so much done in the game now that I decided against just starting over to do these, but now that I know all the locations I'm sure I can pull them off in NG+. :)

[JonoAMano]

If you haven't finished your first playthrough, you might be able to complete this at the Blackgate Prison Nexus. I'm not sure if you can perform a Standing Ledge Takedown there, though. I'll try it on my next playthrough

[SWS]

Originally posted by JonoAMano:

If you haven't finished your first playthrough, you might be able to complete this at the Blackgate Prison Nexus. I'm not sure if you can perform a Standing Ledge Takedown there, though. I'll try it on my next playthrough

Yes, it is possible, that's where I did it ;)

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

OK...I'll try it there then. Thanks for the update. I'm only to the part where you are supposed to go back into the GCPD to examine the corpse int he morgue. Just doing all the side stuff first as much as aI can. Finished Penguin, Shiva, Deadshot, etc. and doing Enigma's hideout right now. HAve allt he data packs except the ones inside and the Park Row sewer, which I can't get into yet.

[JonoAMano]

When you return to the Bank for the Black Mask mission, be advised there are two more vents on the ground level, under the Southeast and Southwest stairs. You access these from the South floor grate near the destroyed vault door where you collected the underfloor DataPack.

If you choose to use these, unless thugs pass close to these lower vents you will have to choose between baiting these with the Sonic Batarang, pushing a thug toward a vent with a boosted RC Batarang, or using Cape Ultra-Stun (getting spotted) on a thug to stun them long enough to access the grate and take them down.

Because of their location and AI traffic behavior I always save the lower vents for Deadshot during the 2nd bank mission because he will pass close to these for a takedown while he hunts you.

[JonoAMano]

Confirmed SWS' playthrough findings at Blackgate Nexus. After the Blackgate sewers enter the Nexus through the lower crawlspace for a Vent Takedown. Smash a vent to access a weak wall for the ExpGel Takedown. Corner Takedown can be performed anywhere. For the Standing Ledge Takedown you can use the Nexus control tower and wait for someone to pass beneath the openings.

Oh, use a boosted RC Batarang to knock off that annoying sniper on the control tower roof.
EDIT: You can do a Corner Takedown on the sniper on the control tower roof.

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

Thanks for the info. I should get to that sometime tonight and will confirm what you say. :)

[Satters]

I set the gel and the accidentialy blew it before anyone was near. Then it saved :(. I supose i have to wait for NG+ now :(

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

Sucks. That's one of the best places to do a lot of them it looks like. That gel takedown is really a mess. Wish you didn't have propximity abilities on stuff, or at least you could choose if you wanted it to be.

This game is longer than I thought. Figured I was almost done, but I am fighting that Firefly guy still and the game keeps bugging out on him so I quit playing for a few days. XD

[TITOMOSQUITO187]

Holy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥! You have got to be kidding me.

Got to this part of the game (Blackgate) and was doing jsut fine. USed the vent to get the guy right off, got a gel kill, boomeranged the sniper to fall off and go unconscious, and THEN, my gamepad disconnected, and when I tried to ALT+TAB out of the game to have it connect again it wouldn't work in game so I just quit and figured I could start over. Have no idea what the keyboard controls are so I jsut didn't bother to keep playing instead figured I would start that area over.

Now the vent is gone that I used as well as the wall I blew up. How the ♥♥♥♥ didd it save those states? Should ahve pushed me back to the previous checkpoint. I'm guessing that it didn't keep track of those kills either so I have to do the same ones again to the remaining guys. Waht a stupid ass game...lmao

Oh well...I'm sure I can still get it here as this place i a goldmine for this stuff, but there is no way that it should ahve saved this stuff this way. It makes ZERO sense.