optional bosses

[Tort]

for the achievement what counts as the optional bosses? and do i have to survive the run or just kill all 2/3?

[Grandpa Crack Pipe]

There's actually four. You have to kill Yuki, the Ghost, the Diver, and Umi in one run. Finding them usually requires blowing up a statue. The wording doesn't imply you have to survive, and it still counts if you kill the optional bosses in a loop.

Yuki is summoned by blowing up a Gambler statue.

The Ghost is summoned by having the "undying force" in the face modifier move over a health pickup.

The Diver is summoned by blowing up an experience statue, grabbing the disk, going to the coordinates on your window (if you're windowed), or the bottom of the menu if you're fullscreen, and opening the chest.

Umi is summoned by leaving a Blackhole pickup on the ground in an area with a modifier for 4 Mortality levels (usually by leaving the blackhole summoned from beating the boss). She should fly in, and when her animation changes right on top of it, grab it first.

[Thundercracker]

this is ridiculous now.

before, when it was just 2 optional bosses, it was bad enough to get the RNG to smile on you enough to even fight both in the same run.

the level of RNG alignment you need to fight all 4 is ridiculous.

[Grandpa Crack Pipe]

Originally posted by Thundercracker:

this is ridiculous now.

before, when it was just 2 optional bosses, it was bad enough to get the RNG to smile on you enough to even fight both in the same run.

the level of RNG alignment you need to fight all 4 is ridiculous.

Getting them all before the final boss, yeah. Luckily it still counts if you loop and kill the rest of the optional bosses.

[Thundercracker]

Originally posted by Grandpa Crack Pipe:

Originally posted by Thundercracker:

this is ridiculous now.

before, when it was just 2 optional bosses, it was bad enough to get the RNG to smile on you enough to even fight both in the same run.

the level of RNG alignment you need to fight all 4 is ridiculous.

Getting them all before the final boss, yeah. Luckily it still counts if you loop and kill the rest of the optional bosses.

even 10 attempts is not enough if the RNG is random.

but with how rancid the RNG has been treating me post patch, i would not discount the possibility.

[ŁopataGaming]

You can always go get optional bosses post 25 mortality. I got it here.

[Thundercracker]

i absolutely love this forum's habit of never reading the post they are presumably responding to.

[Pumpkinreaper]

Originally posted by Thundercracker:

this is ridiculous now.

before, when it was just 2 optional bosses, it was bad enough to get the RNG to smile on you enough to even fight both in the same run.

the level of RNG alignment you need to fight all 4 is ridiculous.

I found that if you take the perks that make two statues appear on stages with modifiers and the one that makes new statues float in when you destroy one helps significantly.