How to get good alignment?

[ei]

Hello!

The only way I've found is to get one part of the Angel set (don't remember if it was the ring or the other item). Otherwise, I'm at loss on what to do - purchasing items in the Law shop gives lawful morality, which doesn't allow you to enter heaven.

So - what do I do to get high enough alignment to enter Heaven?

[Dollop of Mayo]

I'd like to know myself. Alignment stuff, as important as it is eventually, is INCREDIBLY difficult to get, besides Lawful.

[ChocoMaxXx]

Post from the dev:

If you need/want to go shadow planes: Become pure lawful.
(+4 integrity) (Can be achieved by buying Dice in tavern from the Farmer and using Law Shops.)

If you need/want to go to hell: Become pure evil.
(-4 morality) (Can be achieved by buying Illegal Gun Parts, spending or gaining gold in the Black Market and Evil Shops.)

If you need/want to go to heaven: Become pure good.
(+4 morality) (Can be achieved by buying Green Blessing from Dryad or Purging Stones from Cleric in tavern, and from Good Shops.)

(NO USE YET): You can get +1 Chaotic from buying a Storm in a Bottle from the Creepy Wizard in the tavern.

You can use the most top node on the meta perk tree called "Throne Quest" to reduce the requirement to go to floor 12 by 1, so e.g.:
instead of needing "Pure Evil" you can now pass with "Evil" (-3, instead of -4)

In general you only need to worry about 1 alignment, depending where you wanna go.

Also something slightly confusing might be that there are 2-axis to your alignment,
you can be "lawful good" or "lawful evil". The system is like the D&D alignment system: https://i.imgur.com/LZSWWZb.png

Side effects of alignment:

Mead from the Viking in the tavern become cheaper when you are evil and more expensive if you are good.
Illegal Gun Parts from the Gun Dealer in the tavern become cheaper when you are evil and more expensive if you are good.
Green Blossom from the Dryad in tavern become cheaper if you are good and more expensive if you are evil.
Purging Stones from the Cleric in tavern become cheaper if you are good and more expensive if you are evil.
Repair Powder from the Dwarf Warrior in tavern becomes cheaper if you are good and more expensive if you are evil.

Hope this helps!

Cheers

[ei]

Oh! Started another run after dying from ichor in Heaven and now I also get good shop, besides evil shop (World lvl 7 if that matters). I guess that's the way then - to buy from good shop rather than lawful shop. Issue is that good shop isn't available from the get go, so investing in lawful shop is confusing (and not the way)

[ei]

> Purging Stones from Cleric in tavern

Thank you for the response, but this is false - I've removed 4 curses from myself by purchasing purging stones from tavern and haven't moved in alignment axis. If this comes from the dev, then that's a bug

[Ouroboros]

Most ways to move your alignment other than the shops after bosses only work once; so, you only get +1 good the first time you buy from the cleric, for example.

[Funky Fizz]

Originally posted by ei:

> Purging Stones from Cleric in tavern

Thank you for the response, but this is false - I've removed 4 curses from myself by purchasing purging stones from tavern and haven't moved in alignment axis. If this comes from the dev, then that's a bug

You only get the alignment once per run, unlike the good/lawful/evil shops.

Your alignment changed the first time you bought a purging stone, and then never did again for the rest of the run. It even says it on the tooltip when you speak to them

[ei]

Thank everybody for the clarification. I don't remember if I've had +1 or +2 (had full Angel set on Mystic which would account for one point movement). All in all now I'm using good shop :)

[Ace]

So if you have the Throne Quest perk and the right NPC interactions you will need at least 1 good or evil store purchase, and 2 for lawful. If you don't get the NPC's you need 3 purchases.

[Dollop of Mayo]

Really seems like there should be a LOT more ways of gaining alignment, especially Good, like, I don't think I've even seen a Dryad in 20 runs

[ChocoMaxXx]

in time . we will get more for sure

[Wapf]

How do you unlock the evil and good shops? I only ever get lawful shops.

[Ouroboros]

Originally posted by Wapf:

How do you unlock the evil and good shops? I only ever get lawful shops.

You need to get to the gate (and probably be denied) at least once before the shops will show up. The shops you can find on floor 11 also count as alignment shops, so worst case scenario, you can save up a bunch of souls for them.

[David Yemen]

Originally posted by Dollop of Mayo:

Really seems like there should be a LOT more ways of gaining alignment, especially Good, like, I don't think I've even seen a Dryad in 20 runs

You get guaranteed good shops either way so it's never impossible to get +3/+4 needed.

[Funky Fizz]

Originally posted by Dollop of Mayo:

Really seems like there should be a LOT more ways of gaining alignment, especially Good, like, I don't think I've even seen a Dryad in 20 runs

You can reroll people at the tavern for 10g for talking to the chick next to the barkeep. It should be impossible to not see the cleric and the dryad. On hero I get the alignment damage bonus from them every single time without fail.

Alignment is one of the least rng dependent aspects of this game right now...

[Dollop of Mayo]

Originally posted by David Yemen:

Originally posted by Dollop of Mayo:

Really seems like there should be a LOT more ways of gaining alignment, especially Good, like, I don't think I've even seen a Dryad in 20 runs

You get guaranteed good shops either way so it's never impossible to get +3/+4 needed.

Do you? I only ever see Law shops. Like, I wasn't aware there were other kinds of shops.