The game looks good but whats up with one hit kill shots ?

[Twotricks]

Is everyone rocking some kind of sniper in the game, or are hitpoints so low? But you usually die in fraction of second if anyone shoots you. Is this supposed to be like it? Or is everyone rocking some cheat ?

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There is a possibility of this being due to some ISP's within the United States intentionally causing/creating latency.

Verizon FIOS is one such company that causes such network imperfections - regardless of whether or not you are paying for gigabit speeds. Even with a direct wired connection to your modem, you will still face over 25ms latency on download and upload. Prime connection speeds for gaming would have less than 5ms latency on both of the aforementioned measurements. But unfortunately, with FIOS, that simply isn't possible.

Provide proof or STFU.

God dayum. What do you want my phone number or something you creep. I always get between 25 and 47ms latency on upload and download. If you don't believe me - that's fine. Go back to wherever the heck you slumber and enjoy having good internet options lol.

[Deus]

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Honestly I played some WW2 simulation games like Red Orchestra, that try to simulate actual gun wounds. And even there you are more likely to survive.

It is more akin to hitscan games like Unreal Tournament Railgun mode or Tribes. But they are using arcadey "sci-fi" weapons.

Being able to one shot a player that is running and jumping - and constantly, not as a fluke - from across the map. Its either by cheat , or really bad game design. ( since its not even possible in sniper focused games )

Have you never seen or played Call of Duty? Rifle TTK in CoD is typically in milliseconds and SMGS kill even faster than rifles in range, like this game. Snipers and shotties in CoD can one shot.

This is an arcade shooter, like CoD. Specifically like Black Ops 4 or 3. Expecting to not die instantly is a fool's game.

LOL usually only a single sniper rifle can kill in one shot in any CoD game, they also are harder to use do to longer scope in times and longer time between shots. Shotguns up until the newest CoD have been worthless for a long time, you have to be literally up their ass with the barrel to kill in one shot and even then not with all of them. TTK in CoD has been reeeaallly high for the last few years. Your argument is absolutely terrible. I believe that shotguns should one shot, not arguing that at all. Snipers on the other hand are a little out of control. When like half of the lobby is using the tier 2 sniper, there is an issue. I'm not saying it shouldn't one shot but it should be a little more strict in the one shot zone because as of right now like half the body is the one shot zone.

[armedpoop]

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LOL usually only a single sniper rifle can kill in one shot in any CoD game, they also are harder to use do to longer scope in times and longer time between shots. Shotguns up until the newest CoD have been worthless for a long time, you have to be literally up their ass with the barrel to kill in one shot and even then not with all of them. TTK in CoD has been reeeaallly high for the last few years. Your argument is absolutely terrible. I believe that shotguns should one shot, not arguing that at all. Snipers on the other hand are a little out of control. When like half of the lobby is using the tier 2 sniper, there is an issue. I'm not saying it shouldn't one shot but it should be a little more strict in the one shot zone because as of right now like half the body is the one shot zone.

MY argument is bad? YOUR argument is rooted in an entirely FALSE premise. A SINGLE sniper that one shots? MW19 had the AX-50, the HDR, the Rytec, the SPR, and the quickscoper's wet dream Kar98. That is FIVE OHKO snipers. Literally ALL of Cold War's Sniper rifles could one shot. What are you even talking about? I will agree that Snipers ADS way faster in this game, but until entire TDM/Conquest lobbies are using snipers I wouldn't consider it an issue.

As for shotgun range, the pre nerf 725 had a 16m one shot kill range. I don't think ANY of the shotties in this game kill at 16m in one shot. After the nerf it was cut down to 9m which is about how far the shotties could reliably one tap in Cold War as well (and THOSE were secondary weapon shotties!), and is also about how far the t4 shotgun in shatterline one shots from.

You have literally no idea what you are talking about. TTK has been high in recent years? One of Vanguard's prominent complaints is just how LOW the TTK is. People said the same thing about the MW2 beta. The only recent game that had a relatively long TTK was Cold War and even that game let you die in 4 AR shots.

[Delta P]

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The bolt snipers 1 hit kill on upper torso, shoulders, neck and head.

They 100% do not. I've been in so many sniper battles with only chest/head exposed and we plink away at each other for literal minutes while landing shots almost every time.

This is probably due to the horrid netcode and desync. Nobody should die across the map through three walls lmfao. Rookie devs, IMO.

[DJ Deckard Cain]

Uh... welcome to FPS gaming? 97% of FPS games have a 1 shot mechanic, from a specific gun or headshots.

Go play halo if you don't like this..... As long as it's not SWAT, because that mode is....... wait for it.... 1 shot headshots.

[LOBOTOMY]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Ashflame:

You people are a joke...... Oh no a game with one shot kills and a fast ttk? You mean a game that ACTUALLY TAKES SKILL TO MASTER? Lets blame it on the "netcode" because that sounds good. You people are a joke and the reason that the gaming industry is now a joke.

actually longer ttk takes more skill, this game is casual lol

[LOBOTOMY]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από armedpoop:

Have you never seen or played Call of Duty? Rifle TTK in CoD is typically in milliseconds and SMGS kill even faster than rifles in range, like this game. Snipers and shotties in CoD can one shot.

This is an arcade shooter, like CoD. Specifically like Black Ops 4 or 3. Expecting to not die instantly is a fool's game.

LOL usually only a single sniper rifle can kill in one shot in any CoD game, they also are harder to use do to longer scope in times and longer time between shots. Shotguns up until the newest CoD have been worthless for a long time, you have to be literally up their ass with the barrel to kill in one shot and even then not with all of them. TTK in CoD has been reeeaallly high for the last few years. Your argument is absolutely terrible. I believe that shotguns should one shot, not arguing that at all. Snipers on the other hand are a little out of control. When like half of the lobby is using the tier 2 sniper, there is an issue. I'm not saying it shouldn't one shot but it should be a little more strict in the one shot zone because as of right now like half the body is the one shot zone.

long scope times in cod are so stupid and exhausting to use its crazy

[Ashflame]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Ashflame:

You people are a joke...... Oh no a game with one shot kills and a fast ttk? You mean a game that ACTUALLY TAKES SKILL TO MASTER? Lets blame it on the "netcode" because that sounds good. You people are a joke and the reason that the gaming industry is now a joke.

actually longer ttk takes more skill, this game is casual lol

Go tell that to Counter Strike..... A game that has stood at the tippy top of the competitive FPS ladder for literally 2 decades.

700,000+ daily players btw...... 10 years since csgo came out btw...... Try again

[d0x360]

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There is a possibility of this being due to some ISP's within the United States intentionally causing/creating latency.

Verizon FIOS is one such company that causes such network imperfections - regardless of whether or not you are paying for gigabit speeds. Even with a direct wired connection to your modem, you will still face over 25ms latency on download and upload. Prime connection speeds for gaming would have less than 5ms latency on both of the aforementioned measurements. But unfortunately, with FIOS, that simply isn't possible.

Where did you hear this nonsense? 5ms of latency? You clearly dont understand anything about networking. 30ms is excellent, 60 is ok, 80 is poor but playable and anything 100+ is ridiculous UNLESS the server or host of the game is across the ocean. For example i see 120ms when playing with people in europe or 300ms if its china or russia.

No the BIGGEST ISSUE is bullets dont come out of the gun they come out of the head so people use that as an exploit to get easy kils by hiding in a way they can see over something and shoot even though the gun would be aimed at a wall.

Its a bad way to design a shooter but its a development shortcut that saves a good amount of time.

Thats the games problem...people grow tired of exploiters and cheaters

[Lufka]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από d0x360:

Thats the games problem

no thats your problem you blame the game not yourself

[Ace]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Twotricks:

Is everyone rocking some kind of sniper in the game, or are hitpoints so low? But you usually die in fraction of second if anyone shoots you. Is this supposed to be like it? Or is everyone rocking some cheat ?

Well, as a twitch shooter, the TTK is quite low. It's more akin to call of duty or Ironsights than Halo, Overwatch, ect.

[Ace]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από DopeSeeking 0.o:

actually longer ttk takes more skill, this game is casual lol

Go tell that to Counter Strike..... A game that has stood at the tippy top of the competitive FPS ladder for literally 2 decades.

700,000+ daily players btw...... 10 years since csgo came out btw...... Try again

"Try again"

It's called "Gambling addictions".

700K people (Most of which are bots. Actual player count is sitting around 100-200K.)

As a matter of fact, WarOwl found that roughly 45/50 players were using cheats of some kind. It's a Free-to-play kiddie pool for people whose PC's can't run actual games. That's all CS:GO really is, and ever will be. It's still using the same stiff engine for crying out loud.

Valve could have modernized the game and made it good without making it graphically intensive so that less fortunate gamers could still enjoy it, but they're just too busy making money from the gambling addictions they foster, and the hackers they've admitted bring them Revenue.

More than normal players, actually. It was talked about in a documentary that valve knows how many people are cheating, and that some are allowed to keep going because it raises awareness for cheats, meaning banned accounts, meaning more new accounts to prop up player counts/reg counts and re-buying skins.

The "Pro players" are just a bunch of scrublords who constantly get caught for cheating and nobody wants to watch pro streams because it's the same exact trash gameplay since 10 years ago.

[Ashflame]

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Go tell that to Counter Strike..... A game that has stood at the tippy top of the competitive FPS ladder for literally 2 decades.

700,000+ daily players btw...... 10 years since csgo came out btw...... Try again

"Try again"

It's called "Gambling addictions".

700K people (Most of which are bots. Actual player count is sitting around 100-200K.)

As a matter of fact, WarOwl found that roughly 45/50 players were using cheats of some kind. It's a Free-to-play kiddie pool for people whose PC's can't run actual games. That's all CS:GO really is, and ever will be. It's still using the same stiff engine for crying out loud.

Valve could have modernized the game and made it good without making it graphically intensive so that less fortunate gamers could still enjoy it, but they're just too busy making money from the gambling addictions they foster, and the hackers they've admitted bring them Revenue.

More than normal players, actually. It was talked about in a documentary that valve knows how many people are cheating, and that some are allowed to keep going because it raises awareness for cheats, meaning banned accounts, meaning more new accounts to prop up player counts/reg counts and re-buying skins.

The "Pro players" are just a bunch of scrublords who constantly get caught for cheating and nobody wants to watch pro streams because it's the same exact trash gameplay since 10 years ago.

I have never seen a statement with more BS.... IN MY LIFE. Sit down braindead.

[Ashflame]

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I have never seen a statement with more BS.... IN MY LIFE. Sit down braindead.

I have. This one. Anyone that doesn't understand that a lot of games (ESPECIALLY old ones) are simply FULL of bots are the ones who are the real (what did you call him?) braindead. If you're talking about a game that's 2 decades old and you are trying to assert that no one bots it or automates it or cheats at it? Yeah, you're one of those Special Magical people.

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I mostly skimmed this thread, but I agree that cheating is just super rampant in this game. No, I do not have video evidence, since I won't record games JUST to show off cheats.

But I have had someone (in the last few days) shooting a hip fire SMG at me and hit me with 2 shots and I'm dead. While we were "dueling" I heard my pistol (T5 revolver, the highest base damage - something about needing 3 PVP sidearm kills in PVP) hit him twice (meaning I heard the little pop sounds that meant I did damage) and then the kill shows 0-6 (150 hp) (or however it's presented) meaning this person 2 shotted me with a low damage weapon and I hit him twice with a high damage weapon and I was dead (150 -> 0) and he was at full health (150 -> 150). So please, tell me again how there aren't people cheating?

I also talked before about watching the POG rerun at the end of a PVP match and the POG cheater literally walked through a wall, took 2 shots and ended someone, walked backward through the wall, turned right, walked through that wall, killed someone else in 2 shots, backed up through the wall again, etc. etc. etc.

Please note, I do NOT suspect that "most" people in this game cheat. I simply think that there are enough cheaters that run rampant and dominate games that it is a problem. Honestly, I think that there are less cheaters than non-cheaters (I could be wrong) which is why I'm still playing at all.

Also, I'm not going to accuse anyone here of cheating, but most people who claim that there isn't a cheating problem? They make that claim because they are the ones using cheats.

Im not reading your second wall of text you braindead.... sit down and shut up if you think a game that has 700K playing is 500k of bots you are a whole new level of braindead.

[Ashflame]

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Im not reading your second wall of text you braindead.... sit down and shut up if you think a game that has 700K playing is 500k of bots you are a whole new level of braindead.

Second wall of text? Hmmm. Let's look at the multiple interpretations of that statement.

That was my first post on this thread you replied to. So referring to it in this context as the second, when it was the first on this thread? Please, tell me about your counting skills.

Second wall of text ever? That would sort of imply that you're the type who counts as, "one, two, .... many." not knowing any other digits or numbers. I mean, maybe second TODAY, but I think that was at least my third today. So please, again, tell me about your counting skills.

Okay, I'm seriously twitching every time I see (and use, as part of referring to what you said) "braindead" since it's always underlined in red. I'll give you a free tip on English and what it means when a text editor underlines something in red like that. It's drawing attention to it, so that you know that it is either spelled (or used) incorrectly. I get it, though, English is a difficult language, and when people like you are learning it as your second (third? .. Oh wait, can't count past 2, second it is) language, it can be difficult. Hope that helps with your journey into learning English better.

Oh, and as for a game that has hundreds of thousands "playing" and most are bots? You clearly have never heard of Lost Ark, and that's not even thinking very long about games that have that sort of "player" base.

But wait, now I'm the one making fun of someone else. Now I'm the toxic one, right? Well, look at how he is demanding in his tone ("sit down and shut up" - and let's examine that demand ... Maybe he stands up when he's at his computer, but I'm already seated... Maybe he has to say the words out loud or you can see his mouth move when he's reading, but I'm often very quiet when I sit - yes, SIT - here at my computer typing) and calls others "braindead" (brain-dead, in case you were wondering how to present the term without that red underlining) over and over and then just consider that he's yet another internet troll who thinks he knows things about the gaming industry and instead just hurls insults all day long at those who might, just might, have actual information and insight into the industry.

No, my book isn't getting any closer to being finished. Now you don't have to reply with that.

What's the over/under on his next reply just being another hurling around of "braindead" a few more times or maybe just "GIT GUD" or maybe he'll call this one my "second wall of text" and then it would actually fit that it's the second on this thread... but then turn his earlier claim of "second wall of text" into a lie, based on two contradictory statements. Hmmmmm, which one will it be???

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL HOLY BRAINDEAD