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Merlandese May 20, 2024 @ 4:17am
Best Monster Techs
What Monster Techs have you found indispensable so far?

I find some of the cheaper Interrupts on Monsters are pretty good. Capriciousness is an excellent Interrupt with a little bonus Quell if you are Interrupting an Interrupt, and Reversal Stench comes in handy for being cheap (1 BP) and also able to dissolve an enemy combo if the farts land.

What have you been using?
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Zack May 20, 2024 @ 10:18am 
I paired Nudge (from the rootabaga-looking guys) with counterattacking skills. Nudge induces Provoke.

If a monster skill is tied to a piece of equipment, you can shuffle the skill around between characters, in case one of them learns a skill that you need on a different character. Just make sure that a removeable piece of equipment is what absorbs the monster skill.

I should also mention that just having those high-power counterattack and interrupts on a monster will be good when the monster gets a showstopper. That's how I defeated Bonnie & Formina's final boss.
Last edited by Zack; May 20, 2024 @ 10:20am
toasty frosting May 20, 2024 @ 1:10pm 
I heard that there's a tech from one of those Elemental faces that reduces spell channel time. Never gotten it myself.
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Zack May 21, 2024 @ 5:57am 
Originally posted by toasty frosting:
I heard that there's a tech from one of those Elemental faces that reduces spell channel time. Never gotten it myself.

It's called Elemental Salvo. I didn't realize that they were considered monsters... I need that technique.
Moogleboy May 21, 2024 @ 7:20am 
Originally posted by Zack:
It's called Elemental Salvo. I didn't realize that they were considered monsters... I need that technique.

If you get two monsters with it and two casters with Hypergravity, you can push the enemy into 0-1 BP forever for ultra cheese. Sadly, Elemental Salvo only works on 2 Channel spells (I don't think there are any 3 Channel ones, at least none that I've seen or used).
Smurf May 21, 2024 @ 3:33pm 
Sonic Blade because it pushes you a third of the timeline to the left, which makes incredible positioning and initiative. Demonic Scratch because it pushes you to the right of the timeline and has a 50% chance at causing Death.

Most skills I've found are nothing exciting, but I have yet to do a monster focused party. They're definitely the party members that make me wish there was a fast forward button though.
Zack May 21, 2024 @ 4:49pm 
Originally posted by Smurf:
Sonic Blade because it pushes you a third of the timeline to the left, which makes incredible positioning and initiative. Demonic Scratch because it pushes you to the right of the timeline and has a 50% chance at causing Death.

Most skills I've found are nothing exciting, but I have yet to do a monster focused party. They're definitely the party members that make me wish there was a fast forward button though.

It might be difficult to even find enough monsters. Bonnie & Formina start off with those three cats, which is the most I've seen and gotten.
solthusx May 21, 2024 @ 11:36pm 
There's only three recruitable monsters that anyone can get (the 3 cats are exclusive to B+F and Lolo is exclusive to Ameya). Imakoo can be recruited in Yomi (mutually exclusive with Dolores, Diva starts with him), Gourmand is in Cordyceps and Kina is in Kamala.
Merlandese May 22, 2024 @ 1:57am 
Originally posted by solthusx:
There's only three recruitable monsters that anyone can get (the 3 cats are exclusive to B+F and Lolo is exclusive to Ameya). Imakoo can be recruited in Yomi (mutually exclusive with Dolores, Diva starts with him), Gourmand is in Cordyceps and Kina is in Kamala.

That's interesting. So it seems like the best option for a Monster run might be Ameya, LoLo, Imakoo, Kina, and Gourmand.

EDIT: Wait a minute... what about the blobs in Kosmos? Are they exclusive to certain routes?
Last edited by Merlandese; May 22, 2024 @ 6:16am
Garamoth May 22, 2024 @ 11:16am 
Can't you just use relics? With those, pretty much anyone can be an honorary monster.
Merlandese May 22, 2024 @ 12:39pm 
Originally posted by Garamoth:
Can't you just use relics? With those, pretty much anyone can be an honorary monster.

I was under the impression that only Relic Bearers could use those. The only one I know of is Wednesday.
solthusx May 22, 2024 @ 2:03pm 
Originally posted by Merlandese:
Originally posted by solthusx:
There's only three recruitable monsters that anyone can get (the 3 cats are exclusive to B+F and Lolo is exclusive to Ameya). Imakoo can be recruited in Yomi (mutually exclusive with Dolores, Diva starts with him), Gourmand is in Cordyceps and Kina is in Kamala.

That's interesting. So it seems like the best option for a Monster run might be Ameya, LoLo, Imakoo, Kina, and Gourmand.

EDIT: Wait a minute... what about the blobs in Kosmos? Are they exclusive to certain routes?

Yes, the blobs can use monster techs, but they are ephemerals, so they'd technically fall into the 'honorary monster' category. You get either one blob or the other depending on weather you're on an odd/even numbered run through Kosmos.
Last edited by solthusx; May 22, 2024 @ 2:24pm
Merlandese May 22, 2024 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by solthusx:
Originally posted by Merlandese:

That's interesting. So it seems like the best option for a Monster run might be Ameya, LoLo, Imakoo, Kina, and Gourmand.

EDIT: Wait a minute... what about the blobs in Kosmos? Are they exclusive to certain routes?

Yes, the blobs can use monster techs, but they are ephemerals, so they'd technically fall into the 'honorary monster' category.

But all Ephemerals are a sort of sub-type, aren't they? If anything, I'd say that Monster is the type, and Ephemeral is the extra adjustment, since you can have an Ephemeral that is also a Human in how they work. Maybe it's just a matter of perspective though.
solthusx May 22, 2024 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by Merlandese:
Originally posted by solthusx:

Yes, the blobs can use monster techs, but they are ephemerals, so they'd technically fall into the 'honorary monster' category.

But all Ephemerals are a sort of sub-type, aren't they? If anything, I'd say that Monster is the type, and Ephemeral is the extra adjustment, since you can have an Ephemeral that is also a Human in how they work. Maybe it's just a matter of perspective though.

Its mostly prespective, there aren't enough Ephemerals for there to be such a thing as a 'standard ephemeral'. Their unique Ephemeral Role does make them good at whatever role you set them up for (mostly due to the -1 BP cost for the relevant category of techs).
solthusx May 22, 2024 @ 3:15pm 
Originally posted by Merlandese:
Originally posted by Garamoth:
Can't you just use relics? With those, pretty much anyone can be an honorary monster.

I was under the impression that only Relic Bearers could use those. The only one I know of is Wednesday.
Well, relics can also be used by Mechs. Notice how they have a Monster Tech skille level.
Merlandese May 23, 2024 @ 12:47am 
Originally posted by solthusx:
Originally posted by Merlandese:

I was under the impression that only Relic Bearers could use those. The only one I know of is Wednesday.
Well, relics can also be used by Mechs. Notice how they have a Monster Tech skille level.

Yeah, and sometimes that's handy. By "use them," I meant use them to do the Monster Thing of Unleashing and Absorbing. So in my head a Relic Bearer is closer to a Monster than a Mech. Again, just arbitrary perspective I guess! lol
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