Why is every interesting game F2P?

[Lvl 10]

I was hoping for a single player game but this is yet another Gacha hell....

What a disappointment.

[Turbo Fart 5000]

The gaming industry has been capitalizing on gaming addiction for over a decade now. Times have changed. They tried draining our wallets with paid DLC, but why do that when you can implement dopamine drip feeds aka gacha.

[Doson・ザ・ロリ好き紳士]

You have two extremes: Either developers are prioritizing profits, which means they need to make the game and characters actually appealing, which also means it's likely to be F2P/Gacha.

OR

The developers are pushing agenda over profits, so they make ♥♥♥♥ ugly on purpose.

[Kaezeribato]

Why is it being F2P an issue? Many paid game are far worst than the average gacha game...

[tadleszcz]

Postat inițial de Kaezeribato:

Why is it being F2P an issue? Many paid game are far worst than the average gacha game...

Yeah... Sure...

[Where'sMySupersuit!!]

Yeah idk same problem I have with ZZZ, super high quality but its a F2P live service gacha game. In miHoYo's case they have the money so idk why they don't put their time into a super high quality single-player game with possible coop. I mean they obviously care more about easy profits over trying to make something that takes more effort than what their doing.


There's literally no point of playing these games unless your a whaled up goonball that's borderline braindead.

[Kaezeribato]

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Yeah idk same problem I have with ZZZ, super high quality but its a F2P live service gacha game. In miHoYo's case they have the money so idk why they don't put their time into a super high quality single-player game with possible coop. I mean they obviously care more about easy profits over trying to make something that takes more effort than what their doing.


There's literally no point of playing these games unless your a whaled up goonball that's borderline braindead.

And, what do any paid roguelike have that ZZZ dont have? I'm curious.

[Where'sMySupersuit!!]

Postat inițial de Kaezeribato:

And, what do any paid roguelike have that ZZZ dont have? I'm curious.

What are you asking me, thats not a question.

[Kaezeribato]

Postat inițial de Where'sMySupersuit!!:

Postat inițial de Kaezeribato:

And, what do any paid roguelike have that ZZZ dont have? I'm curious.

What are you asking me, thats not a question.

It is since you're pretending that ZZZ being F2P is bad, this mean that paid game have things that ZZZ does not. So asking what ZZZ is lacking due to it being F2P is a question.
But the answer being nothing you prefer not to say anything, ZZZ is far better than most paid rogue-like.

[Where'sMySupersuit!!]

Postat inițial de Kaezeribato:

Are u on your meds or have you gone to bed yet? Literally going off the rails for nothing, its like you think I said the game was complete ass or something. All I said was being F2P is intrinsically bad within itself but as well cuz its a gacha live service game. That's literally all I said and your loosing your mind goin braindead mode.

Also whatever your trying to say is worded hella weird and seemingly goes against the point your tying to make but that's how I'm reading it. I dont disagree with what your trying to say but the game no differently profit focused than any other F2P game and its design could be more but its made lesser than what it could be to fit a simplification within mobile game design.


Overall I don't think the game is terrible at all but the F2P systems that exist are garbage and no I don't think paid games that do similar or worse stuff (especially when they have shops) is right either. But if they made a normal game that wasn't a phone game they could definitely do so much more than what their doing now for easy cash.

[Kaezeribato]

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Are u on your meds or have you gone to bed yet?

There's nothing off rail, the topic is people commplaining about games being F2P, and you too are saying that it's bad that a game is F2P, yet you dont give any reason as to why it's bad.
So obviously i ask for asked reason, but in the end all you said was, "F2P bad because it's F2P."
You're the only one losing your mind for no reason...

All game are made to make money, there's no difference between a gacha game and a paid. Many gacha game dev are less greedy that paid game dev simply because any good gacha game receive free content for a long time, exactly like any good paid game receive free content for a long time.
There's a huge amount of paid game that are nothing more than cash grab.

[Where'sMySupersuit!!]

Postat inițial de Kaezeribato:

In a world where a dude has no clue that a metric f load of games on Steam alone that are one time payment with no goofball paid additional crap exist at all...

I'm actually curious if you actually follow/play video games or just weirdo observer.

[Hema]

wait, this game is gacha? i play enough tbh

[Satyricon42]

Postat inițial de Where'sMySupersuit!!:

Yeah idk same problem I have with ZZZ, super high quality but its a F2P live service gacha game. In miHoYo's case they have the money so idk why they don't put their time into a super high quality single-player game with possible coop. I mean they obviously care more about easy profits over trying to make something that takes more effort than what their doing.


There's literally no point of playing these games unless your a whaled up goonball that's borderline braindead.

Either you are one of those people with little to no self control and blames it on the game instead, or you have never played any gacha game. Especially these days gacha games can be played 100% free with little to no issue. In the past you had these cheap auto battler grinders that would try to squeeze out as much money as possible before pulling the plug. But those days are over. In order to compete in this severely over saturated market gacha games have to stand out a lot more than before.

[Where'sMySupersuit!!]

Postat inițial de Satyricon42:

I've played tons of gacha games and F2P games and I never spend money on em. I'm just the type of person to find stuff annoying to the point I don't care to play anymore (moment of realization).

Games with shops, in-game pop-up notifications, BPs, timed content, FOMO of any kind.

[Kirei]

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Postat inițial de Satyricon42:

I've played tons of gacha games and F2P games and I never spend money on em. I'm just the type of person to find stuff annoying to the point I don't care to play anymore (moment of realization).

Games with shops, in-game pop-up notifications, BPs, timed content, FOMO of any kind.

im playing zzz for combat, i dont care about anything else, i just like combat, the other games are ♥♥♥♥.