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Toxicwire† Oct 29, 2014 @ 10:08pm
Endless Legend VS Endless Space?
Which one do you like the most and why?
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MTB-Fritz Oct 29, 2014 @ 11:54pm 
Endless Space because it makes my inner geek happy :)


I consider Endless Legend better "technically" but immersion factor and simple fun in Endless Space....through the roof (for me)
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Toxicwire† Oct 30, 2014 @ 12:10am 
Originally posted by MTB-Fritz:
Endless Space because it makes my inner geek happy :)


I consider Endless Legend better "technically" but immersion factor and simple fun in Endless Space....through the roof (for me)
Personally I like Endless Legend better because Endless Space, the UI is slightly broken and or useless sometimes as well as, come on... You're in Space and it takes you forever to get space soldiers? That really turns me off for some reason.
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MTB-Fritz Oct 30, 2014 @ 12:31am 
You're in Space and it takes you forever to get space soldiers?

that hits me as a "strange" reason to deduct points but we are talking personal opinions here so hey :)
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Mrrshan68 Oct 30, 2014 @ 7:09am 
Personally i think you will find most people in the endless space forum will prefer endless space :P

im in that camp mostly because space based 4x is a much smaller market than fantasy based 4x.
Novelty goes a long way.
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Nasarog Nov 5, 2014 @ 8:43am 
Endless Legend because it more refined and has more to do. I love Endless Space, but there are a few components that feel empty to me.
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OK Man Nov 5, 2014 @ 9:05am 
Originally posted by MTB-Fritz:
Endless Space because it makes my inner geek happy :)


I consider Endless Legend better "technically" but immersion factor and simple fun in Endless Space....through the roof (for me)

I feel like this except my inner geek likes experimenting with saved games...changing planet types and sizes, etc. I hope I ddon't crash anything! lol.

Besides I don't have Endless Legend.
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Nasarog Nov 5, 2014 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by OK Man:
Originally posted by MTB-Fritz:
Endless Space because it makes my inner geek happy :)


I consider Endless Legend better "technically" but immersion factor and simple fun in Endless Space....through the roof (for me)

I feel like this except my inner geek likes experimenting with saved games...changing planet types and sizes, etc. I hope I ddon't crash anything! lol.

Besides I don't have Endless Legend.
Then come join us on Explorminate (steam group and webpage). We'll be giving a few copies away.
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Hobo Elf Nov 5, 2014 @ 12:29pm 
Endless Legend is a far more refined game, but it suffers from what is perhaps the meekest AI I've ever seen in any strategy game ever. I haven't played this game for that many hours yet, but already I've felt far more challenged by this game than EL and I've only played on Normal.

Regardless, there is a good chance that you'll end up getting both if you like either one. I know I did.
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Nasarog Nov 5, 2014 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by Hobo Elf:
Endless Legend is a far more refined game, but it suffers from what is perhaps the meekest AI I've ever seen in any strategy game ever. I haven't played this game for that many hours yet, but already I've felt far more challenged by this game than EL and I've only played on Normal.

Regardless, there is a good chance that you'll end up getting both if you like either one. I know I did.
Play on a higher diffuclty perhaps?
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Hobo Elf Nov 5, 2014 @ 11:00pm 
Originally posted by Nasarog:
Originally posted by Hobo Elf:
Endless Legend is a far more refined game, but it suffers from what is perhaps the meekest AI I've ever seen in any strategy game ever. I haven't played this game for that many hours yet, but already I've felt far more challenged by this game than EL and I've only played on Normal.

Regardless, there is a good chance that you'll end up getting both if you like either one. I know I did.
Play on a higher diffuclty perhaps?

It doesn't change AI behavior.
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Nasarog Nov 6, 2014 @ 4:33am 
Originally posted by Hobo Elf:
Originally posted by Nasarog:
Play on a higher diffuclty perhaps?

It doesn't change AI behavior.
It doesn't, but it gives it enough advantages to hide some of the weaknesses. Let's be honest here, what do you want from your game? to have fun or feell like you're playing a person?
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Hobo Elf Nov 6, 2014 @ 7:07am 
Originally posted by Nasarog:
Originally posted by Hobo Elf:

It doesn't change AI behavior.
It doesn't, but it gives it enough advantages to hide some of the weaknesses. Let's be honest here, what do you want from your game? to have fun or feell like you're playing a person?

I want to have fun by being challenged :)
And are you saying that having fun and playing against a human opponent are mutually exclusive? The highest difficulty does nothing to hide the enemy weakness. It just gives it a bit of an advantage via more HP% for their units, but this is quickly negated as soon as you upgrade your units with Glassteel or Titanium, something the AI is (woefully) incapable of doing.
Last edited by Hobo Elf; Nov 6, 2014 @ 7:11am
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Nasarog Nov 6, 2014 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Hobo Elf:
Originally posted by Nasarog:
It doesn't, but it gives it enough advantages to hide some of the weaknesses. Let's be honest here, what do you want from your game? to have fun or feell like you're playing a person?

I want to have fun by being challenged :)
Play Endless Difficulty and let me/us know how that went.. :D
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Hobo Elf Nov 6, 2014 @ 7:12am 
Originally posted by Nasarog:
Originally posted by Hobo Elf:

I want to have fun by being challenged :)
Play Endless Difficulty and let me/us know how that went.. :D

I have :) it does nothing at all, really :)

Edit: Just to be clear for those who haven't played Endless Legend and don't know, the AI acts the same on the easiest and hardest difficulties, the difference being that their units get twice as much health on the hardest. That's all.
Last edited by Hobo Elf; Nov 6, 2014 @ 7:14am
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Nasarog Nov 6, 2014 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by Hobo Elf:
Originally posted by Nasarog:
Play Endless Difficulty and let me/us know how that went.. :D

I have :) it does nothing at all, really :)

Edit: Just to be clear for those who haven't played Endless Legend and don't know, the AI acts the same on the easiest and hardest difficulties, the difference being that their units get twice as much health on the hardest. That's all.

Not in my experience, but I will not argue with you about the AI. Not because you are wrong and I am right, but because you make valid points, and I don't disagree with you. I don't play with custom factions, so that probably makes the game harder for me. But once I beat the game with all the "stock" factions, I will switch to custom and never look back.

I don't know a single 4x (proper) AI that is good at release, or even 6-12 month after release. Not a single one. The best AI opponenets that I've played come from Stardock, and even those take many years to get to the shape they are at. Years and years of development. Very few studios do that. Firaxis doesn't (know the first thing about making a mediocre AI). Paradox won't pay for further development (look at what happened with SotS2). I'm not sure about the EU/CK/etc games (haven't played them enough yet), but I suspect that once you figure out the AI, it's a pushover.

Can you give me an example of a good AI and why you find it to be good?
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