New gun assemble mechanic is disgusting. :(

[HekatonCheires]

will be back later :(

even if you grinding your time for farming, it depend not time but luck.
i open half of close map. but still use old garbage gun.

cant make new one ewww

[Mckillalot]

Wow, the gun issue is huge. Essentially the developers have gone for massive grind instead of increasing content, what a pity.

When you add up all the changes, there is little 'new' content outside of building options, just significant grind factor, and they still haven't fixed the sharks that can teleport through walls and the overpowered enemy.

They have:
1) Increased resources needed for most tasks (grind/squeeze);
2) Reduced the ability to store resources for the tasks (grind/squeeze);
3) Overly complicated recipes like firearm manufacture (grind);
4) Not fixed several repeatedly raised issues;


If they had just added the building options and fixed some more bugs most people would have been appreciative of the update. My real concern is the decision process that led to these changes. Think about the storage size changes, how did they think that would work unless they are utterly abandoning all prior saved games? Perhaps all the work done by all players so far is about to be thrown away and they just haven't had the integrity to tell us yet...

I will wait until the patch is fully released but if the storage changes and resource issues stay, I will have to change my previous recommendation to "Don't buy and check back in 6 months". Disappointing.

[honestycvt]

There is nothing against gun assemble in my opinion, but for gods sake, did i need that lot of resources to assemble a gun?
Some cloth and oil, maybe a tool or two.
Main problem is the gunpart frequenz. Don´t want to spent that much resources and getting a scrap gun.
The overall feels wrong, the amount of wood to burn the ironbars, needing so many iron you normally build a base off, that feels absolutly wrong for me.

[peterld14150]

With this update, the grind has been made too hard and the game is not enjoyable as it is now. Having to find blue prints for things that were part of a research upgrade is a step back.

[Desert Rat]

It's definitely a huge step backward. I hope the devs will realize this and make improvements. The game was fun at first. Now, it's just a grind.

[stretch]

Originally posted by Desert Rat:

It's definitely a huge step backward. I hope the devs will realize this and make improvements. The game was fun at first. Now, it's just a grind.

Maybe, but new players wont know any better so eventually there will only be people who don't mind or think it's normal and wont mind.
It's only the ones who are used to the old ways who will be vocal for a while and they already have their money.
While I neither like it or support it I do admit it's EA and entirely within their rights to do it. Just depends how much attitude they have as to whether they accept the critical comments and revert or dig in and deny.

[Danmadic]

I resorted to using a knife for most of my kills underwater! And using the grenade glitch since gun making is definitely a joke! Public test version

[Mortbise]

I'm quite unhappy with the storage changes coming along the x5 multiplier slapped on crafting mats, but there's been quite some good in the update too.

A beef I have though, I farmed a few islands and PoI for blueprints and still haven't found the bloody crossbow. No major prob with mats, but only found blueprints about wallpaper, flooring, furniture... The functional/progression ones elude me badly. Radio island with a bow wasn't fun, and I don't quite dare go further without better weaponry : |

And from other comments, I'm not sure my 2 chests of weapon parts will let me do anything useful...

[Mckillalot]

Originally posted by stretch:

Originally posted by Desert Rat:

It's definitely a huge step backward. I hope the devs will realize this and make improvements. The game was fun at first. Now, it's just a grind.

Maybe, but new players wont know any better so eventually there will only be people who don't mind or think it's normal and wont mind.
It's only the ones who are used to the old ways who will be vocal for a while and they already have their money.


Sadly you are right Stretch, but the devs should consider that if they leave the negative changes in place, a lot of negative reviews will pop up from disgruntled players that have already paid and this could hurt future sales.
If the devs want to turn this project into a successful business model that powers them from project to project then they should look towards content expansion, not just adding grind, unless they have no imagination and cannot think of anything to add.

[Topsykrett]

for the ppl complaining about the "grind" for iron. Use the metal detector, i just gathered over 100 ore in about 25-30 min. The detector is really handy and makes life simpler. Hope this helps :)

[Mortbise]

Originally posted by Topsykrett:

for the ppl complaining about the "grind" for iron. Use the metal detector, i just gathered over 100 ore in about 25-30 min. The detector is really handy and makes life simpler. Hope this helps :)

I wouldn't say it's hard to find, but you also have to smelt it, at 3 times the wood cost now.

Finding the stuff isn't the only aspect, you have to bring back the stuff home with reduced storing capacity across the board, and process it at increased costs too, be it in the mats for the buildings or the process itself.

[Topsykrett]

Originally posted by Mortbise:

Originally posted by Topsykrett:

for the ppl complaining about the "grind" for iron. Use the metal detector, i just gathered over 100 ore in about 25-30 min. The detector is really handy and makes life simpler. Hope this helps :)

I wouldn't say it's hard to find, but you also have to smelt it, at 3 times the wood cost now.

Finding the stuff isn't the only aspect, you have to bring back the stuff home with reduced storing capacity across the board, and process it at increased costs too, be it in the mats for the buildings or the process itself.

I can see your points, but a 1-1 ratio when smelting ore didnt really make sense, when i could smelt an iron bar quicker than cooking a fish on the grill. And the storage also makes sense when you look at it, the smallest storage container shouldnt hold as much as an oil drum that cost 4X more mats to make

[Danmadic]

Public release Day 88 and I am not giving up on making my first gun! One last parts I need, modern gun parts. Anybody know where I can find this. I went back to the recycle in dreadville and now it is gone. Was hoping that it was were I would make it. DEG45 with all about 70 parts! OMG

[Nick Walker II]

Originally posted by Danmadic:

Public release Day 88 and I am not giving up on making my first gun! One last parts I need, modern gun parts. Anybody know where I can find this. I went back to the recycle in dreadville and now it is gone. Was hoping that it was were I would make it. DEG45 with all about 70 parts! OMG

88 days and still no gun? This update sounds like a joke.

[Danmadic]

OK I was not looking at my crafting area and found modern gun parts. :) Now I need 2 copper ingots and 20 components. Yahoo I will be weaponized.

[Topsykrett]

Originally posted by Nick Walker II:

Originally posted by Danmadic:

Public release Day 88 and I am not giving up on making my first gun! One last parts I need, modern gun parts. Anybody know where I can find this. I went back to the recycle in dreadville and now it is gone. Was hoping that it was were I would make it. DEG45 with all about 70 parts! OMG

88 days and still no gun? This update sounds like a joke.

hes talking modnern guns, their is scrap guns you can make, im on day 60 on my multiplay and weve made 3 guns, 1 for each of us, i will admidt the RNG for the gun pieces when scrapping does suck a bit, but its not impossible to make them depending on how much you farm teritorial islands and what you get from the raiders hitting your base