too much self-damage on the cl-40

[dave]

i understand why i did it, but now theres no counter to the model other than using a model yourself as a medium. should've made it like 1.2, 1.6 is too much.

[Knee]

You shouldn't be engaging other players with an explosive weapon so close.

[dave]

Originally posted by Knee:

You shouldn't be engaging other players with an explosive weapon so close.

sometimes you have to. lots of cashouts are in buildings. thats close quarters

[Knee]

Originally posted by dave:

Originally posted by Knee:

You shouldn't be engaging other players with an explosive weapon so close.

sometimes you have to. lots of cashouts are in buildings. thats close quarters

And sometimes you have to face the negatives a weapon provides, not just the positives.

[Multiplayer Bot]

Originally posted by Knee:

You shouldn't be engaging other players with an explosive weapon so close.

i guess thats why they nerfed the mine. Using explosives indoors is bad :(

Seriously because of the splash damage you have no defense close range. You only have one gun, what are you supposed to do when a player sneaks up behind you and you engage in a fire fight. I guess you can try to run but will die anyway.

[tailZ]

this nerf will now re-calibrate players to their actual skill level / rank, rather than silvers reaching plat with a 3 stack CL40.

[♥ BiutifuSmaat ♥]

no

[Len]

Overnerfed. Lights have it way too easy now. I cant even defend myself in close range. Feels bad now.

[YaBoi173]

Originally posted by Len:

Overnerfed. Lights have it way too easy now. I cant even defend myself in close range. Feels bad now.

Thats what you get for using thew CL-40

[Knee]

Originally posted by Play Everyday:

Originally posted by Knee:

You shouldn't be engaging other players with an explosive weapon so close.

i guess thats why they nerfed the mine. Using explosives indoors is bad :(

Seriously because of the splash damage you have no defense close range. You only have one gun, what are you supposed to do when a player sneaks up behind you and you engage in a fire fight. I guess you can try to run but will die anyway.

I guess we should turn all shotguns into snipers since they do basically no damage at range, yes?

[Sweetwater]

Originally posted by Knee:

Originally posted by dave:

sometimes you have to. lots of cashouts are in buildings. thats close quarters

And sometimes you have to face the negatives a weapon provides, not just the positives.

There is no positives after this kind of nerf, it has worst splash damage, slow projectile and requires now pixel perfect accuracy to shoot under the feet or direct, 5 ammo of no dmg grenades is worthless upside, im better of with hitscan weapons for now thank you very much.
Just think about it, with grenade launcher now i am more effective at killing myself rather than enemies.
I dont understand its role now though, you cant destroy buildings with explosions, you cant spam it with low damage because they nerfed pump speed earlier, it sucks at long range, and now sucks at close range, give me 1 reason to use this, i am open for suggestions

[YaBoi173]

Originally posted by Sweetwater:

Originally posted by Knee:

And sometimes you have to face the negatives a weapon provides, not just the positives.

There is no positives after this kind of nerf, it has worst splash damage, slow projectile and requires now pixel perfect accuracy to shoot under the feet or direct, 5 ammo of no dmg grenades is worthless upside, im better of with hitscan weapons for now thank you very much.
Just think about it, with grenade launcher now i am more effective at killing myself rather than enemies.
I dont understand its role now though, you cant destroy buildings with explosions, you cant spam it with low damage because they nerfed pump speed earlier, it sucks at long range, and now sucks at close range, give me 1 reason to use this, i am open for suggestions

if you are killing yourself with your own splash damage then thats a skill issue

[Sweetwater]

Originally posted by YaBoi173:

Originally posted by Sweetwater:

There is no positives after this kind of nerf, it has worst splash damage, slow projectile and requires now pixel perfect accuracy to shoot under the feet or direct, 5 ammo of no dmg grenades is worthless upside, im better of with hitscan weapons for now thank you very much.
Just think about it, with grenade launcher now i am more effective at killing myself rather than enemies.
I dont understand its role now though, you cant destroy buildings with explosions, you cant spam it with low damage because they nerfed pump speed earlier, it sucks at long range, and now sucks at close range, give me 1 reason to use this, i am open for suggestions

if you are killing yourself with your own splash damage then thats a skill issue

true, any advice on fighting melee weapons who charge you? You have to understand now if you shoot them directly which is the only way to damage now, you still damage yourself more than them

[Sweetwater]

petition to add charge and slam for medium class, so i can play with new gl40

[Knee]

Originally posted by Sweetwater:

Originally posted by Knee:

And sometimes you have to face the negatives a weapon provides, not just the positives.

There is no positives after this kind of nerf, it has worst splash damage, slow projectile and requires now pixel perfect accuracy to shoot under the feet or direct, 5 ammo of no dmg grenades is worthless upside, im better of with hitscan weapons for now thank you very much.
Just think about it, with grenade launcher now i am more effective at killing myself rather than enemies.
I dont understand its role now though, you cant destroy buildings with explosions, you cant spam it with low damage because they nerfed pump speed earlier, it sucks at long range, and now sucks at close range, give me 1 reason to use this, i am open for suggestions

Splash damage towards the edge of the radius still does 90%, it still kills lights with 2 ordinary non-direct hit blasts. It's supposed to be a safe way to deal lots of damage to one area. The only real change here is the self-damage. If you're upset by this change, that just means you've been running headlong into fights and will need to change your strategy. It's not supposed to be a kamikaze weapon.

[Knee]

Originally posted by Sweetwater:

Originally posted by YaBoi173:

if you are killing yourself with your own splash damage then thats a skill issue

true, any advice on fighting melee weapons who charge you? You have to understand now if you shoot them directly which is the only way to damage now, you still damage yourself more than them

Deal with them the same way you would a heavy and his charge and slam.