Dematerializer is a mid trade

[VaporeonCunny]

Notice less and less people are using the dematerializer in games, and it makes sense. Teammates will almost never use it when you make openings, and while it is cool to make little holes to shoot people just walking through the door with a healing beam on you can get you the same if not better results. Another thing I see when I go up against mediums using it, they just run and hide from you roughly 1 minute before you kill them anyways. Just a niche item with situational use, that would be completely abandoned if medium had C4.

Just another poorly planned out addition from S2 that aged like milk I guess

[DirtyDishes]

Pfft, no. I'm a demat beast and can say for sure 99% of people using it are still sleeping on it.
The outplay potential is INSANE and I keep developing new strats every day. If I had all the crazy things I did on video and you would watch it, you would call for a nerf. lol

[Recruit "THE NASCAR DRIVER"]

Originally posted by DirtyDishes:

Pfft, no. I'm a demat beast and can say for sure 99% of people using it are still sleeping on it.
The outplay potential is INSANE and I keep developing new strats every day. If I had all the crazy things I did on video and you would watch it, you would call for a nerf. lol

Then do a video and show us

[es.Iiden]

Originally posted by VaporeonCunny:

Notice less and less people are using the dematerializer in games, and it makes sense. Teammates will almost never use it when you make openings, and while it is cool to make little holes to shoot people just walking through the door with a healing beam on you can get you the same if not better results. Another thing I see when I go up against mediums using it, they just run and hide from you roughly 1 minute before you kill them anyways. Just a niche item with situational use, that would be completely abandoned if medium had C4.

Just another poorly planned out addition from S2 that aged like milk I guess

I am so glad I am not the only one that noticed that demat use has gone down. I see people equip it but rarely use it as well. Probably because its not as great as it seems or its uses cases are actually limited. Yeah making a cashout drop a level without much noise is great but thats about it. The visual obstruction that it causes when shooting through it is annoying. Its also the only specialization that other teams can utilize bundled with the fact that closing a portal also uses a charge. I wouldn't mind if it required a charge to close an enemy portal but two charges to close open and close your own is annoying.

then again, i might just be that im bored of the game now. the lack of actual "content" has made playing a slog.

[Tom]

I actually rather like the demat, think its better than C4 as it lets you go through things faster as you dont gotta place it back off detonate then charge in. Also lets you grab teammate statues through walls and floors without the risk of shooting them a mile away that comes from c4. You can drop people through floors and close the hole up behind them so their team cant help, and if you running from someone you can make an easy escape. You can hide above the cashout with a ton of mines on the floor, yours and your teammates, then when someone starts stealing open the floor and let the mines rain down. So many things you can do with it

[maximus]

Its quite literally the best specialisation for medium and its actually not even close.

[VaporeonCunny]

Originally posted by Tom:

I actually rather like the demat, think its better than C4 as it lets you go through things faster as you dont gotta place it back off detonate then charge in. Also lets you grab teammate statues through walls and floors without the risk of shooting them a mile away that comes from c4. You can drop people through floors and close the hole up behind them so their team cant help, and if you running from someone you can make an easy escape. You can hide above the cashout with a ton of mines on the floor, yours and your teammates, then when someone starts stealing open the floor and let the mines rain down. So many things you can do with it

Sounds like you enjoy it because your team is always dead or your running away. And as far as high skill players no one is standing on the same floor as the cashout, or would ever fall through the floor without instantly vaulting. You only have to play a couple matches to learn don't stand on the cashbox and start vaulting up the moment you begin falling.

[Tom]

Originally posted by VaporeonCunny:

Originally posted by Tom:

I actually rather like the demat, think its better than C4 as it lets you go through things faster as you dont gotta place it back off detonate then charge in. Also lets you grab teammate statues through walls and floors without the risk of shooting them a mile away that comes from c4. You can drop people through floors and close the hole up behind them so their team cant help, and if you running from someone you can make an easy escape. You can hide above the cashout with a ton of mines on the floor, yours and your teammates, then when someone starts stealing open the floor and let the mines rain down. So many things you can do with it

Sounds like you enjoy it because your team is always dead or your running away. And as far as high skill players no one is standing on the same floor as the cashout, or would ever fall through the floor without instantly vaulting. You only have to play a couple matches to learn don't stand on the cashbox and start vaulting up the moment you begin falling.

True and true. The fact that it enables you to make such plays to turn around a match is valuable tho, and you can still catch high skill players off guard dropping them. Also about the mines I didn't mean drop them directly on the cashbox, i meant covering the room around the box. I've gotten a couple team wipes by just timing it right with a friends sonar grenade.

[Dhomochevsky]

Originally posted by es.Iiden:

Originally posted by VaporeonCunny:

Notice less and less people are using the dematerializer in games, and it makes sense. Teammates will almost never use it when you make openings, and while it is cool to make little holes to shoot people just walking through the door with a healing beam on you can get you the same if not better results. Another thing I see when I go up against mediums using it, they just run and hide from you roughly 1 minute before you kill them anyways. Just a niche item with situational use, that would be completely abandoned if medium had C4.

Just another poorly planned out addition from S2 that aged like milk I guess

I am so glad I am not the only one that noticed that demat use has gone down. I see people equip it but rarely use it as well. Probably because its not as great as it seems or its uses cases are actually limited. Yeah making a cashout drop a level without much noise is great but thats about it. The visual obstruction that it causes when shooting through it is annoying. Its also the only specialization that other teams can utilize bundled with the fact that closing a portal also uses a charge. I wouldn't mind if it required a charge to close an enemy portal but two charges to close open and close your own is annoying.

then again, i might just be that im bored of the game now. the lack of actual "content" has made playing a slog.

man, i had noticed meds mediocre perfomance since forever. seeing they have healing gun or turret but never used on the match its just sad. i almost get a stroke every time i see a med carrying defib but using normal revive instead, on the counterpart meds using defib when you are outnumbered so you will only revive to get rekted heh. i think people just think on "hey i will try to get a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of kills teeheheh" instead on focusing of trying to support the team to achieve the match goal.

i dont main med but i have to say removing all the detection stuff out of that class was a shame indeed.

[Polar Test 53]

Originally posted by Dhomochevsky:

i dont main med but i have to say removing all the detection stuff out of that class was a shame indeed.

yeah they removed recon senses but it made no sense to also take away recon nades and dart. people complained about recon senses not sonar nades. but light needed a buff but lights kit was already set cause light needs to kill to be useful.
so moving all the recon stuff onto light basically just removed recon from the game.
and moving the motion sensor to heavy made no sense as well for the same reason. heavys kits is already set there's no room for a motion sensor.
all 3 of those items should be available to all classes TBH. i know i said the kits wont fit them but if they get buffed they may have a place.

its just like how they murdered nukes by placing all the suggested nerfs onto it when it really just needed to do less damage and have one less c4. it was the instant kill part people hated. throwing bomb strapped objects was super fun tho lol.

[DirtyDishes]

Originally posted by Recruta BR:

Originally posted by DirtyDishes:

Pfft, no. I'm a demat beast and can say for sure 99% of people using it are still sleeping on it.
The outplay potential is INSANE and I keep developing new strats every day. If I had all the crazy things I did on video and you would watch it, you would call for a nerf. lol

Then do a video and show us

Man, I wish I could. Even if the recording software works, which it often doesn't, the difference in game performance/ input lag for me is too bad to keep using it. :(

Just watch Ottr's "what 100 hours of demat look like" and then imagine 50 hours more on top of that... Then you imagine someone with quite a bit worse aim than him and you have me. xD

[maximus]

Originally posted by DirtyDishes:

Originally posted by Recruta BR:

Then do a video and show us

Man, I wish I could. Even if the recording software works, which it often doesn't, the difference in game performance/ input lag for me is too bad to keep using it. :(

Just watch Ottr's "what 100 hours of demat look like" and then imagine 50 hours more on top of that... Then you imagine someone with quite a bit worse aim than him and you have me. xD

You are arguing with someone who probably tries to win bank it unironically

[joshua.sinclair]

Originally posted by VaporeonCunny:

Notice less and less people are using the dematerializer in games, and it makes sense. Teammates will almost never use it when you make openings, and while it is cool to make little holes to shoot people just walking through the door with a healing beam on you can get you the same if not better results. Another thing I see when I go up against mediums using it, they just run and hide from you roughly 1 minute before you kill them anyways. Just a niche item with situational use, that would be completely abandoned if medium had C4.

Just another poorly planned out addition from S2 that aged like milk I guess

You know, I was googling the refresh rate for dematerializer charges and I came across this post and saw you asking for a Clip with it. So here you go friend.
I do stuff like this with the demat all the time. It's very very useful tool to steal, especially when you get a heavy and healer med as teammates and they take the fight while you ninja.
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/jz5gK9wdS6

[The Whiggachad]

I have been maining dematerialization since it came out and I love it very much, when I rarely switch to healing beam I still sometimes find myself walking into a wall with the heal because I'm so used to playing with it.
The biggest problem with it is the inconsistency, the shapes you demat are very variable and it led to wipes bec my mate's statue didnt fall and it made me lose a lot of cashouts for the same reason, because if it take more than 2 charges you won't be able to remat everything and you're gonna die stealing if you have no heavy, I learnt to take a moment to examine and decide which piece I'll demat under the chashout but still most of the times I can't do it with one charge and sometimes even 3 charges don't make it fall, some floors have 2 layers and take 2 charges to open a single hole, and sometimes there are metal or lamps hanging from the ceiling that will cost a charge too if you are not careful.
Also las vegas is ♥♥♥♥ for demat.
I love some rng but this one varies so much that you can't sometimes play around it or control it but it controls you, and it sometimes causes losses when you relay on it so much specially when you have no time.
I am not saying make it a guaranteed tool to drop cashouts and close the floor, but just make it more useful either by decreasing the range of possible piece sizes or making it 4 charges.
Remember you are sacrificing the healing beam for it so it better work when you use it properly, right?

[The Whiggachad]

Originally posted by joshua.sinclair:

Originally posted by VaporeonCunny:

Notice less and less people are using the dematerializer in games, and it makes sense. Teammates will almost never use it when you make openings, and while it is cool to make little holes to shoot people just walking through the door with a healing beam on you can get you the same if not better results. Another thing I see when I go up against mediums using it, they just run and hide from you roughly 1 minute before you kill them anyways. Just a niche item with situational use, that would be completely abandoned if medium had C4.

Just another poorly planned out addition from S2 that aged like milk I guess

You know, I was googling the refresh rate for dematerializer charges and I came across this post and saw you asking for a Clip with it. So here you go friend.
I do stuff like this with the demat all the time. It's very very useful tool to steal, especially when you get a heavy and healer med as teammates and they take the fight while you ninja.
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/jz5gK9wdS6

Insane play bro

[Sn4pFPS]

it is just boring to use , you have to click , if it was press q and press q again was quicker and much faster and better to use , that's it.