Sword rework

[#AKS]

Considering Embark after months of complaining about stun gun decided to rework it maybe they can give a look at light sword as well?
This thing is cracked, charge attack damage combined with ability to deal damage to several close standing opponents AND with addition of light's bs dash movement makes countering them at least to me impossible.
And i know i know, mastering sword is no small task but still think that should be some rework applied because getting killed in split second with this thing doesnt feel balanced at all

[Deathswarrior]

They did. Tears flowed like rivers. They changed it back. Don't suggest anything that changes lights. What you want is for the heavy to get another RPG nerf.

[gamer posture]

Oprindeligt skrevet af #AKS:

Considering Embark after months of complaining about stun gun decided to rework it maybe they can give a look at light sword as well?
This thing is cracked, charge attack damage combined with ability to deal damage to several close standing opponents AND with addition of light's bs dash movement makes countering them at least to me impossible.
And i know i know, mastering sword is no small task but still think that should be some rework applied because getting killed in split second with this thing doesnt feel balanced at all

Oprindeligt skrevet af Deathswarrior:

They did. Tears flowed like rivers. They changed it back. Don't suggest anything that changes lights. What you want is for the heavy to get another RPG nerf.

cope and seethe
my sword can beat your sniper rifle from across the map

https://files.catbox.moe/nz87r3.mp4


sword ninjas run the finals

[Deathswarrior]

Oprindeligt skrevet af gamer posture:

Oprindeligt skrevet af #AKS:

Considering Embark after months of complaining about stun gun decided to rework it maybe they can give a look at light sword as well?
This thing is cracked, charge attack damage combined with ability to deal damage to several close standing opponents AND with addition of light's bs dash movement makes countering them at least to me impossible.
And i know i know, mastering sword is no small task but still think that should be some rework applied because getting killed in split second with this thing doesnt feel balanced at all

Oprindeligt skrevet af Deathswarrior:

They did. Tears flowed like rivers. They changed it back. Don't suggest anything that changes lights. What you want is for the heavy to get another RPG nerf.

cope and seethe
my sword can beat your sniper rifle from across the map

https://files.catbox.moe/nz87r3.mp4


sword ninjas run the finals

No it can't as I refuse to play lights. So kill me while I'm a sniper now. /s

[Lord Dazed & Insane]

Maybe just remove light

[doofy]

♥♥♥♥ sword and dash. most brain dead ♥♥♥♥

[Kyral]

idfc about what the others think, sword has to go, remove it completely, forever, and never bring it back ever again.

this kit is just total cancer, impossible to counter with any light that knows how to go play properly.

i'm done getting light sword in each game who can go 10/0 because nobody can track them, 3 dashes, vanish, small hitbox.
light sword are realistically impossible to track, anyone who says otherwise is delusional.

this kit doesn't belong in a multiplayer FPS game at all, it never has been.
high elo is filled with light swords and it's just pure cancer.
bring back S2 balance

[patrick söderlund my beloved]

I meet a sword player with 20k kills, did 21 - 3... It was just untrackable... There's no way Embark can let people ruine an entire game with this ridiculous weapon. This is not Chivalery game.

[Sє†н]

I also understand that it takes training to achieve such results, but one-shotting a team of light players in three dashes or seeing a differently composed team fall in three seconds with the help of teammates remains exceptional with the dash + sword combo.

You could train for months with another weapon and you would never see that.

The quickSilver class is fun for those who master it, but it throws the rest of the game out of balance. In comparison, I remember the time in BF3 when I was so good with the plane that I was killing ground troops with the machine gun with such efficiency that I was getting insulted and ruining the game for 64 players, making it unplayable and as unbalanced as possible.
No one could stop me, whether in a vehicle or with anti-air. So yes, it's fun for two minutes, but what's the point in the long run?

There's no challenge anymore, and with anything other than my plane, I became like everyone else, and relying on teammates gave the game meaning again.
Otherwise, you might as well play soccer solo as a striker; it would yield the same result, and even your team would insult you.

[bEAM]

Its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥, combined with desync, i can't even deflect sword dash properly and take full damage

[Xuild]

i main heavy sledge and dude, dash + cloak bomb + sword is pure cancer, oh look a light, time to winchclaw them! oh nevermind they dashed 900 times across the map + their trillions of sword lunges then they cloak, do the exact same thing to come back before i even fully regen and vaporise me

[HiggsLP]

If they lunge+ dash, add lets say 0.5s delay... something that makes it impossible to teamwipe in 2s.
Though I wouldnt want to see everything being put on nerf qeueu, again.
Maybe lets do some buffs, counter gadgets instead.
Bring back 2 fire mines and let em dash over them;)

[Supernova]

That's a weird whine. I'm good with a sword and there's nothing I can do against strong opponents. They fire so fast that you only have time to do 1 lunge

[Kyral]

Oprindeligt skrevet af HiggsLP:

If they lunge+ dash, add lets say 0.5s delay... something that makes it impossible to teamwipe in 2s.
Though I wouldnt want to see everything being put on nerf qeueu, again.
Maybe lets do some buffs, counter gadgets instead.
Bring back 2 fire mines and let em dash over them;)

whether it takes 2s or 8s makes no difference, the issue is that they can kill anyone extremely quickly while being impossible to track and having zero counter.

[Deathswarrior]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Xuild:

i main heavy sledge and dude, dash + cloak bomb + sword is pure cancer, oh look a light, time to winchclaw them! oh nevermind they dashed 900 times across the map + their trillions of sword lunges then they cloak, do the exact same thing to come back before i even fully regen and vaporise me

For myself as a hammer heavy homie.... it's not that I can't catch and kill them. It's the amount of effort that I have to put in compared to ANY other setup. I play casually and the only way to play a sweaty light is by being sweaty myself and that goes against why I'm playing. If I want to be sweaty I can go back to Valorant or CS.

[gamer posture]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Kyral:

Oprindeligt skrevet af HiggsLP:

If they lunge+ dash, add lets say 0.5s delay... something that makes it impossible to teamwipe in 2s.
Though I wouldnt want to see everything being put on nerf qeueu, again.
Maybe lets do some buffs, counter gadgets instead.
Bring back 2 fire mines and let em dash over them;)

whether it takes 2s or 8s makes no difference, the issue is that they can kill anyone extremely quickly while being impossible to track and having zero counter.

zero counter? lets count everyone

1. lockbolt
2. glitch trap
3. explosive mines (these need to be buffed ill admit idk why they got nerf)
4. staying together
5. communication
6. toxic gas
7. heal gun
8. goo gun
9. demateralizer


I agree that sword needs a nerf, but the only nerf it needs is that when someone charges up an alt attack it needs to make a little kaching noise so that enemy players know a light is about to slingshot around the corner. other than that sword is fine, it reminds me of the demoknight from team fortress 2




bottom line is the sword is the best 1v1 weapon in the game you just need to nope on out of there if you see a sword player and stick with your team. if you are with teammates and still get kill by sword, then they earned it