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JoeDieHoe Mar 26 @ 11:06am 
No.
nah, I just get plopped into lobbies with emerald ranks all the time, it's usually at big events like a new season or Halloween that all those stinking sweats return for a while then leave again
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Ghazghkull Mar 26 @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by Asiáticus:
still skill base matchmaking?
Even in ranked they are trying to hide their matchmaking. Diamonds and rubies in the same lobbies as gold players, but dont worry, the devs hide the ranks so you cant complain lol
Asiáticus Mar 26 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by Ghazghkull:
Originally posted by Asiáticus:
still skill base matchmaking?
Even in ranked they are trying to hide their matchmaking. Diamonds and rubies in the same lobbies as gold players, but dont worry, the devs hide the ranks so you cant complain lol
I played casual and the sbmm was very aggressive. I was thinking about returning to the game but I don't want it to be the same as the last time.
Yeah. It's another great game ruined by SBMM. Not worth playing anymore
Kyral Mar 26 @ 4:24pm 
it feels 200% more like EOMM rather than SBMM
matches are never balanced, you either get stomped, or stomp enemies most of the matches.
the matchmaking in this game NEVER worked as it should've, from S2 to S5 you could see ranks and elo and you'd have actual proof that the system was flawed.
now instead of fixing it, embark just chooses to hide it so you can no longer prove that their matchmaking is awful
Last edited by Kyral; Mar 26 @ 4:25pm
Originally posted by Kyral:
it feels 200% more like EOMM rather than SBMM
matches are never balanced, you either get stomped, or stomp enemies most of the matches.
the matchmaking in this game NEVER worked as it should've, from S2 to S5 you could see ranks and elo and you'd have actual proof that the system was flawed.
now instead of fixing it, embark just chooses to hide it so you can no longer prove that their matchmaking is awful
Yeah, most likely tbh. Literally every single gamemode has unbalanced teams 99% of the time. The bigger titles coming out nowadays are probably opting for EOMM over SBMM right off the bat anyways because it's way better for $$$

Massive scam. Can't even enjoy a game without these losers micromanaging every single match
Roux Mar 26 @ 5:37pm 
Originally posted by stephen van der assanti:
Originally posted by Kyral:
it feels 200% more like EOMM rather than SBMM
matches are never balanced, you either get stomped, or stomp enemies most of the matches.
the matchmaking in this game NEVER worked as it should've, from S2 to S5 you could see ranks and elo and you'd have actual proof that the system was flawed.
now instead of fixing it, embark just chooses to hide it so you can no longer prove that their matchmaking is awful
Yeah, most likely tbh. Literally every single gamemode has unbalanced teams 99% of the time. The bigger titles coming out nowadays are probably opting for EOMM over SBMM right off the bat anyways because it's way better for $$$

Massive scam. Can't even enjoy a game without these losers micromanaging every single match
what is "EOMM"? EO matchmaking?
Originally posted by JORVIK ENFORCER:
nah, I just get plopped into lobbies with emerald ranks all the time, it's usually at big events like a new season or Halloween that all those stinking sweats return for a while then leave again
emeralds dont mean theyre good,
Tom Mar 26 @ 9:56pm 
I've heard the devs claim they don't use SBMM or EOMM, I could be wrong or they could be lying. However if correct and true then the lobbies are true random its likely the reason they're so unbalanced is because theres just a lot of good and bad players plus small team sizes in a heavily team oriented game means any team with a single bad player will get stomped and same goes if all players are good but just don't gel together very well.

Matches feel unbalanced because the teams are too small.
its SBMM, but the pool of players is too small and so you get matched against full hadcore teams, lights with hacks and etc
Originally posted by stephen van der assanti:
Yeah. It's another great game ruined by SBMM. Not worth playing anymore
what?
This game doesn't have sbmm XD It only messes with new players when you start and then hits you with whatever it knows.
If you think it has sbmm, let me tell you, you're the bad guy in the game.
Kyral Mar 27 @ 3:24am 
Originally posted by Roux:
Originally posted by stephen van der assanti:
Yeah, most likely tbh. Literally every single gamemode has unbalanced teams 99% of the time. The bigger titles coming out nowadays are probably opting for EOMM over SBMM right off the bat anyways because it's way better for $$$

Massive scam. Can't even enjoy a game without these losers micromanaging every single match
what is "EOMM"? EO matchmaking?
Engagement Optimized MatchMaking
officially used in CoD games and some EA games, that's a matchmaking system specifically designed to create unbalanced matches to frustrate the players, then reward them with incredibly easy matches that provides enjoyment for the players, the EOMM algorithms tries to find a balance between frustration and rewards to attempt getting as much engagement from players as possible.

SBMM is supposed to make matches even (i didn't say it was any good at it most of the time). While EOMM is specifically designed to create matches where the outcome is already predicted with a 95% accuracy.

SBMM tries to keep things fair. EOMM only wants to make you play as much as possible, it relies on the reward mechanisms on your brain, which imo should be criminalized cause that means it's more effective on mentally weak and disabled people, it's mental abuse.
Roux Mar 27 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by Kyral:
Originally posted by Roux:
what is "EOMM"? EO matchmaking?
Engagement Optimized MatchMaking
officially used in CoD games and some EA games, that's a matchmaking system specifically designed to create unbalanced matches to frustrate the players, then reward them with incredibly easy matches that provides enjoyment for the players, the EOMM algorithms tries to find a balance between frustration and rewards to attempt getting as much engagement from players as possible.

SBMM is supposed to make matches even (i didn't say it was any good at it most of the time). While EOMM is specifically designed to create matches where the outcome is already predicted with a 95% accuracy.

SBMM tries to keep things fair. EOMM only wants to make you play as much as possible, it relies on the reward mechanisms on your brain, which imo should be criminalized cause that means it's more effective on mentally weak and disabled people, it's mental abuse.

That checks out. I personally think SBMM is more engaging but hey that's just cus I'm decent at most things I do.
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