notice how no one complains about m11 ttk?

[kumbussy]

thats because yall are only maining lights

[slysudo]

M11 is the easiest weapon in the game, it literally barfs out bullets and still has about 10 left in the chamber after obliterating a heavy before they can turn around. If its not nerfed in the next update im actually just going to quit cause Embark seriously cant balance worth ♥♥♥♥ except inadvertently buffing these rats by ruining heavy.

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yeah the M11 is everywhere at the moment. Very easy to use and insane dps

[Neo Scopes]

its got no range, lots of recoil. Its good up close but you can clip them from medium or longer range. I main medium and I'd say the heavies are way more annoying at the moment, with the buffed LMGs.

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Originally posted by Neo Scopes:

its got no range, lots of recoil. Its good up close but you can clip them from medium or longer range. I main medium and I'd say the heavies are way more annoying at the moment, with the buffed LMGs.

I personally find its range decent (with the red dot) and recoil a non issue at close ranges. With the ttk the target is normally dead before recoil is a factor.

I only see about 1 lmg heavy player every 4-5 PS matches so can't comment on that. The M60 is solid but little more than a fringe irritation. Deagles are probably the only impactful heavy weapon I face atm I'd say.

[kumbussy]

Originally posted by Neo Scopes:

its got no range

Be so for real

[mccluckers]

ive noticed people who use aim assist love to use this gun too

[kumbussy]

Originally posted by mccluckers:

ive noticed people who use aim assist love to use this gun too

Fax it's for some reason always console players

[timeskipper]

I do not notice

[76561199655312027]

That's what happens when XP54 gets nerfed.

[Polar Test 53]

or maybe all of lights weapons have been nerfed into such a state that the m11 became the best gun by just not getting nerfs and is in fact not really great. its just the best they got.

kinda the same issue with heavys flamer in S3. it was never actually a good gun... just everything was so nerfed it became one of the best options. so good in fact that people think its been shadow nerfed even tho its just the same as its always been. only heavy just got access to their LMGs again and got the deagles.

being depraved of viable weapons really messes with people's perspectives when they get actual options back lol. i can only imagine the outcry when lights actually become viable outside of the few good light players.

[@Onikrux]

xp54 got nerfed to the point u may as well just use iron sights.
and the m11 just got a red dot that makes it feel WAY better at a medium range.
Grenade launcher was just the issue last week- let's wait n see and stop being so emotional.

Spear + HandGestureCancel is an unknown light-sweeper.
Turrets/Mines are a great anti tool for lights since Glitch shuts off cloak and turrets are just Aimbots if you're defending them, but also depends on ur Team, vs the enemy Team, and the Gametype.

all im saying is don't be surprised when they nerf the M11 or buff something else and you die to another playstyle you don't respect. Figure out ur counterplay or learn to laugh it off.

[DukeOfNewYork_A1]

Originally posted by kumbussy:

thats because yall are only maining lights

Ahhh, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Sure, you can have a team full of lights with uzi's, but the ones I see winning on the regular are M with the assault rifles. So long as your team is balanced AND sticks together, them gatflies don't matter.

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Originally posted by DukeOfNewYork_A1:

Originally posted by kumbussy:

thats because yall are only maining lights

Ahhh, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Sure, you can have a team full of lights with uzi's, but the ones I see winning on the regular are M with the assault rifles. So long as your team is balanced AND sticks together, them gatflies don't matter.

I think it is likely exacerbated because I tend to mainly play powershift rather than cashout. An organised and balanced team will always win out. But outside of slide spamming Model users I never feel frustrated by facing Medium players.

[Mana98]

Asking for nerf just to be killed by another weapon. Its easy to counter and it has bad recoil. Its so easy to kill them as medium.

[Jozsefirst]

I choose not to complain about it because there are much more problematic weapons in the game anyway and there is little chance that any of them will be addressed by the devs appropriately. In other words, there is no point in complaining about it. Be thankful they are not stronger than they already are.