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Jozsefirst Oct 15, 2024 @ 2:41pm
TTK sucks
We're at the point where playing the finals feels more akin to playing counter strike than anything we had been experiencing in the beta/early seasons with everyone running around with guns that can 2 tap any class aside from Heavy. What made the game interesting was the creative use of gadgets, props and destruction, but by Season 4 just about none of that really matters anymore because any combat encounter can and will be over in less than a second. We had problematic weapons in the past, but the devs decided that instead of nerfing these weapons they'll start making/buffing other weapons to that new high, disregarding the fact that all of this makes for a more poor experience. Dont get me wrong, high TTK can be fun, but this isn't counter strike, this game by it's very nature is too chaotic for the average gunfights to be over so quick and easy, you need to give players enough window of opportunity to use tactics other than "left click, left click, left click".
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slysudo Oct 15, 2024 @ 3:04pm 
preach, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ preach
have you tried pressing Q or 1 3 4 5 or shift perhaps
gamer posture Oct 15, 2024 @ 7:42pm 
I literally came here right now to complain about the TTK... I dont know if its because of scopes, heavy nerfs, or both, probably both but the TTK is ridiculous and feels like im playing battlefield + rainbow six siege


please buff heavy defense
Last edited by gamer posture; Oct 15, 2024 @ 7:45pm
Jozsefirst Oct 15, 2024 @ 10:26pm 
Originally posted by 光線照耀:
have you tried pressing Q or 1 3 4 5 or shift perhaps
Have you tried reading before commenting?
HiggsLP Oct 15, 2024 @ 11:52pm 
Yep feel like CoD TDM.
But the game being so bad is good incentive to try out all those Steam Next games- Off Grid, Mini Royale, Delta Force...
FUDGE Oct 15, 2024 @ 11:57pm 
Originally posted by Jozsefirst:
We're at the point where playing the finals feels more akin to playing counter strike than anything we had been experiencing in the beta/early seasons with everyone running around with guns that can 2 tap any class aside from Heavy. What made the game interesting was the creative use of gadgets, props and destruction, but by Season 4 just about none of that really matters anymore because any combat encounter can and will be over in less than a second. We had problematic weapons in the past, but the devs decided that instead of nerfing these weapons they'll start making/buffing other weapons to that new high, disregarding the fact that all of this makes for a more poor experience. Dont get me wrong, high TTK can be fun, but this isn't counter strike, this game by it's very nature is too chaotic for the average gunfights to be over so quick and easy, you need to give players enough window of opportunity to use tactics other than "left click, left click, left click".
doesn't feel anything like counterstrike to me
Jozsefirst Oct 16, 2024 @ 12:20am 
Originally posted by FUDGE:
Originally posted by Jozsefirst:
We're at the point where playing the finals feels more akin to playing counter strike than anything we had been experiencing in the beta/early seasons with everyone running around with guns that can 2 tap any class aside from Heavy. What made the game interesting was the creative use of gadgets, props and destruction, but by Season 4 just about none of that really matters anymore because any combat encounter can and will be over in less than a second. We had problematic weapons in the past, but the devs decided that instead of nerfing these weapons they'll start making/buffing other weapons to that new high, disregarding the fact that all of this makes for a more poor experience. Dont get me wrong, high TTK can be fun, but this isn't counter strike, this game by it's very nature is too chaotic for the average gunfights to be over so quick and easy, you need to give players enough window of opportunity to use tactics other than "left click, left click, left click".
doesn't feel anything like counterstrike to me
When I'm makimg that comparison I'm reffering to the TTK specifically. Getting 2 tapped is the new norm in S4. If you dont get 2 tapped you run into guns like the akimbo or M11 that chip away your health so fast that you have basically no room left for counterplay.
Last edited by Jozsefirst; Oct 16, 2024 @ 12:49am
Djenzski Oct 16, 2024 @ 5:07am 
Originally posted by Jozsefirst:
We're at the point where playing the finals feels more akin to playing counter strike than anything we had been experiencing in the beta/early seasons with everyone running around with guns that can 2 tap any class aside from Heavy. What made the game interesting was the creative use of gadgets, props and destruction, but by Season 4 just about none of that really matters anymore because any combat encounter can and will be over in less than a second. We had problematic weapons in the past, but the devs decided that instead of nerfing these weapons they'll start making/buffing other weapons to that new high, disregarding the fact that all of this makes for a more poor experience. Dont get me wrong, high TTK can be fun, but this isn't counter strike, this game by it's very nature is too chaotic for the average gunfights to be over so quick and easy, you need to give players enough window of opportunity to use tactics other than "left click, left click, left click".

Yes, 100% agree. Light TTK against heavy is waaaaay too fast, i see them melting heavies in a spit second... can not be right. When I have a nade in my hand, and get attacked by a lihgt... by the time ive switched weapons to shoot back am alrdy dead....
Psychoglot Oct 16, 2024 @ 9:25am 
they removed nukes, nerfed gas, nerfed goo, nerfed the movement. the destruction used to be perfect now it's clunky and inconsistent. oh yeah they also nerfed smoke two or three times haha because being an actual smokescreen was unfair(?)

The fun stuff and creativity are slowly being sucked out like a lot lizard :steamsalty:
You're punished for being good with gadgets and barrels. they're genuinely afraid of straying away from COD, they sell skins and push out the creative elements.
Can't wait to get ANOTHER generic gun or an east Asian martial arts weapon
Last edited by Psychoglot; Oct 16, 2024 @ 9:32am
gamer posture Oct 16, 2024 @ 9:38am 
Originally posted by Psychoglot:
they removed nukes, nerfed gas, nerfed goo, nerfed the movement. the destruction used to be perfect now it's clunky and inconsistent. oh yeah they also nerfed smoke two or three times haha because being an actual smokescreen was unfair(?)

The fun stuff and creativity are slowly being sucked out like a lot lizard :steamsalty:
You're punished for being good with gadgets and barrels. they're genuinely afraid of straying away from COD, they sell skins and push out the creative elements.
Can't wait to get ANOTHER generic gun or an east Asian martial arts weapon
+1

season 4 feels like a random chinese FPS i would play out of boredom and uninstall..... the team fights arent as fun or dynamic as they were, theyre pretty boring fps fights that you could have in any other game besides the destructible environment


high ttk was one of the best things about this game , hopefully it will be fixed, heavy needs buff probably
Last edited by gamer posture; Oct 16, 2024 @ 9:38am
Originally posted by Jozsefirst:
Originally posted by 光線照耀:
have you tried pressing Q or 1 3 4 5 or shift perhaps
Have you tried reading before commenting?
no
RuvenGP Oct 18, 2024 @ 6:09am 
+1 Game was insane fun for me but with all the problems like this I'm loosing interest in this game. Open Beta and Season 1 had small balance issues but it was insane fun! But now I don't know...
Psychoglot Oct 20, 2024 @ 7:09am 
Originally posted by 光線照耀:
have you tried pressing Q or 1 3 4 5 or shift perhaps
Originally posted by 光線照耀:
Originally posted by Jozsefirst:
Have you tried reading before commenting?
no
comedy comes in stupid forum comments :feste:
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Date Posted: Oct 15, 2024 @ 2:41pm
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