Sword players received a strong nerf in 4.6.0. Embark, please fix.

[ElectricGoat]

The nerf to the sword was so severe that it’s now almost unusable for basic utility. Lunging with a slight downward angle (~45 degrees) doesn't even register a hit to clear detection traps on the floor! The sword sprite clearly appears to make contact, yet nothing happens.

Worse still, in just two games I’ve experienced multiple moments where the sword sprite, mid-lunge, visibly makes contact with an enemy, only for no hit to be registered at all.

From the patch notes:
Sword

• Decreased lunge duration of the secondary attack from 0.4 to 0.3 seconds, reducing the distance by about ~1m, from roughly 7m to 6m.
  
• Decreased the length of the secondary attack’s hit sweep by 55cm.

According to The Finals wiki on the sword[the-finals.fandom.com], it’s modeled on 19th- to early 20th-century ceremonial naval cutlasses, which historically had a blade length of around 66cm. If the devs initially set an accurate hit sweep based on this, then reducing it by 55cm would leave us with around 11cm. That's basically the size of a (small) kitchen knife! We might as well give sword players a kitchen knife skin to match this reduced sweep.

After playing with the nerf, I’m left with a sword that feels like it’s half a weapon.

My plea to the devs:
I would rather have the pre-nerf range without the pierce buff (hitting multiple enemies while lunging).

Embark, please fix.

EDIT: JK, it was a skill/muscle memory issue. All is good after some hours of practice.

[FUDGE]

i'd be fine if it was the same as before but without pierce, but i've only used the knife on light so I can't tell for sure.

[gamer posture]

Originally posted by Betamax Bandit:

Originally posted by gamer posture:

YEAH AFTER THEY NERFED HEAVY SO SWORD PLAYERS COULD 1V1 HEAVIES NO PROBLEM

NOT AN ISSUE WITH A SWORD, ITS AN ISSUE WITH NERFS IN GENERAL, AND NOW WE GOT MORE NERFS AND ARE GETTING MORE NERFS IN THE FUTURE

Mesh shield,dome and rpg are the big nerfs,those things never helped against melee.
The nerf's hurt heavy's defense against ranged.
Are you using Mesh shield and dome shield or RPG vs a heavy with a hammer or spear?

DOME SHIELD HELPS BY HAVING SIGNIFICANTLY LESS CHIP DAMAGE FROM OTHER SOURCES, SO SWORD IN SOME SITUATIONS IS YES, COUNTERED SOME BY SEASON 1-3 DOME SHIELD, SAME WITH MESH SHIELD

RPG IS OBVIOUS HOW IT COUNTERS SWORD PLAYERS, DOES 140 HP, OR AT LEAST IT DID NOW ITS MOSTLY A SEWER SLIDE DEVICE (embark wants you to play medium or light)


THEY NERFED MORE THAN THAT BY THE WAY, BUT EVERY NERF DIRECTLY AND INDIRECTLY BUFFS LIGHT, AND OTHER STRONG WEAPONS. GAME IS FINISHED UNLESS SCOPES REMOVED IN SEASON 5 AND NEW APPROACH TAKEN WITH BALANCING

[gamer posture]

being able to get kills with weapons was my least favorite part of the game. thank you for making everything equally as useless embark, I love having airsoft fights in real life and now i can do it online too wow!

[YaBoi173]

Originally posted by gamer posture:

being able to get kills with weapons was my least favorite part of the game. thank you for making everything equally as useless embark, I love having airsoft fights in real life and now i can do it online too wow!:rocketrat:

Are you having some sort of psychotic break?

[gamer posture]

Originally posted by YaBoi173:

Originally posted by gamer posture:

being able to get kills with weapons was my least favorite part of the game. thank you for making everything equally as useless embark, I love having airsoft fights in real life and now i can do it online too wow!

Are you having some sort of psychotic break?

embark nerfed my anti psychotic prescription bro and ive never felt better

embark said the meds were too useful and things being useful is wrong (this is the core of their balancing strategy)

[gamer posture]

Originally posted by bad_ezecha:

i just hit ruby im a sword light main since season two and i have to say that its a skill issue, i can still drop 40 in a quick cash so coming off of that i dont feel that your whining is very valid. just get better lol sword still feels like sword. the duration doesnt really matter if im animation cancelling. and the light sweep range can be as small as it wants im still only using that to finish a medium or heavy while im already in there butt so i dont see the problem. just get better. srsly. no hate

yeah dood seasons of muscle memory doesnt matter because you animation cancel on power shift, great dude thats a great point, I love this sword nerf update after reading your post, I think I should listen to your opinion on the sword when youre talking about using it on the mode where 5 people stand near eachother on a platform, thats fair


lets keep asking for every weapon to be nerfed. im STILL getting killed in this game.... smh

[ElectricGoat]

After giving it a solid chance. I cannot make it work. Maybe it is a ping issue, maybe it is a skill issue. Sometime hits connect, other times they dont.
Something is terribly wrong with the way sword register hits against players. Honestly, best to use a different weapon.

[ElectricGoat]

Also, sword GOAT has spoken. Worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsuVsyKawV4&ab_channel=SirYellowJacket

[CRC]

Look at that - one light weapon gets a minor nerf, and they're all up in arms.

Try playing ANY other class with ANY of the other weapons that have been nerfed into the ground....

Pack of f'kin whingers....

[Swanky McSwanky Pants]

Originally posted by ElectricGoat:

Also, sword GOAT has spoken. Worth watching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsuVsyKawV4&ab_channel=SirYellowJacket

Light players when they have to commit to do damage

[gamer posture]

Originally posted by CRC:

Look at that - one light weapon gets a minor nerf, and they're all up in arms.

Try playing ANY other class with ANY of the other weapons that have been nerfed into the ground....

Pack of f'kin whingers....

dude, we both know sword getting nerfed BEFORE stun gun is ridiculous, just because people are upset about light in season 4 doesnt mean sword nerf should have happened

ive been melee only since season 1, sword was the most fun weapon in the game and kept enemies on their toes

[Damian]

If you can't then maybe it's time to learn how to play a gun?