The grappling hook+hammer combo...

[TuRoK]

As someone who plays normally heavy or medium, I can't believe that Embark hasn't done something about the hammer by now, with the grappling hook is some of the most broken stuff I have ever seen in a game, its on par with the nukes back in season 1. It's not only completely broken (And don't tell me It's not, because I play world tour and I see 4 or 5 heavy dudes with grappling hook and hammer every time) but It's some of the most BORING stuff to play against, at least with lights you have to counter the movement or you can have an interesting fight, but with heavys with hammers It's not the case, It's grappling hook and then you're dead...great...

Balancing is the biggest issue in this game BY FAR, (Some of my friends straight up uninstalled the game because of it...) My question is, how can It be that there are utterly USELESS weapons such as the double swords and then you have the instakill that is the hammer?

[Der Gute Kamerad]

I think if the medium swords had a rechargeable dash with the heavy attack it would give it significantly more viability. Not on every heavy attack but say it recharges every 3 seconds. Medium needs a way to evade attacks and close the distance for it to have any real use case.

[SimonRed]

they had to nerf the spear not to 2 shot people but the hammer got to stay the same. funny

[Its called hentai and its art]

Hammer is one of heavies like 3 viable weapons, how about they actually make half of heavies weapons do more damage then a wet blanket before they remove his only useful tool? Also, hammer is only strong if you get inside hammer range. Stay out of range, wiggle back and forth to try and dodge the hook and they just lose, hammer is quite easy to outplay.

[Sublime_Voodoo]

Originally posted by Its called hentai and its art:

Hammer is one of heavies like 3 viable weapons, how about they actually make half of heavies weapons do more damage then a wet blanket before they remove his only useful tool? Also, hammer is only strong if you get inside hammer range. Stay out of range, wiggle back and forth to try and dodge the hook and they just lose, hammer is quite easy to outplay.

I agree even though i play medium its only really viable weapon they have right now like this person mentions

Heavies just need more variety there current weapons are trash

As a medium player id settle for a 1 or 2 extra bullets in my AK

[SAMUELKZERA]

Broken is an invisible ability, as it has good invisible, taser gun. And infinite daggers that never end while you're recharging.

[DieGloke]

heavys need something lol comeon now

[Umichi Onichi]

heavies have few things to counter lights as it is. let the hammer grapple stay as it is.

[LMBits]

To me the hook has way too much range. It makes no sense. Already broken and adding that range is just way too OP. It's cool down is also too low.

[dave]

i dont mind them nerfing the grappling hook or hammer if they then also nerf the sword, and throwing knives

[BRIMStone]

i was playing some light the other day and had a heavy that would CONSISTANTLY hit me with this combo:

winch>lmb hammer > RPG

every time he saw me...was using M11 so it's not too effective outside the winches range, or i ran into him in enclosed spaces...even with dash he COULD NOT MISS it was so frustrating.

[BRIMStone]

Originally posted by Skipper:

i dont mind them nerfing the grappling hook or hammer if they then also nerf the sword, and throwing knives

what's wrong with Tknives? sword i get, it trumps all other melees except with winch claw, when using dash at least, and half the time i just see them scrambling around ppls ankles and spamming lmb -.-

[METHSTROKE]

Originally posted by DieGloke:

heavys need something lol comeon now

Speak english, crutchlord.

[BRIMStone]

Originally posted by METHSTROKE:

Originally posted by DieGloke:

heavys need something lol comeon now

Speak english, crutchlord.

the guy missed literally one space, pretty big stretch you're making there...

[TuRoK]

Im not saying to make the hammer (and flamethrower) useless, I'm saying to do something so they are no instakill weapons that require no skill, It's getting so boring, every game in world tour there are 4 to 6 heavys with the same exact combinations...

[魔仙堡包租公]

What is compensated by kite is high explosion, except that the sledgehammer is walked in the room area, and the hook lock has distance limit and back swing, so you can hide with springboard and sprint.