THROWİNG KNİFE STILL TERRIBLE OP

[HotSauce]

The weapon was nerfed a little with the last update, but it's definitely not enough. It's still a terrible op. I don't understand how the developers don't see this. Don't they play the game they do?

No right click, no sound, no reload (the most important part), no movement slowdown penalty for aiming, unlimited hipfire, can one tap lights at close range, sometimes even one tap from medium distance. It's too ridiculous. The current dps of a weapon with so many positive features is absolutely unacceptable. It is clearly much more powerful than other weapons. They just jump and throw while you constantly reload.

tk it needs to be reworked urgently. What do you think about this?

[dAsh]

everything needs to be buffed. no more nerfing

[Myztkl©-Kev]

Originally posted by HotSauce:

tk it needs to be reworked urgently. What do you think about this?

I think you should use them before you complain about them being OP.

[ShingerZero]

I personally think it's more acceptable now, lowering speed is what should've been done. Also the thing is that playing with it too much might get you tired using only that weapon (which is what happened to me).
Further nerfing might get the weapon not being used by people, which can reproduce the cycle of rebuffing back.

[Specter]

And I would also add on my own:
- do not cause damage to themselves if they miss and hit a nearby wall/floor
- too suitable for campers.

Personally, I am constantly terrorized with these knives, either if face to face, no one succeeds in defeating me, or if it is not possible to “camp” me with a firearm (by going behind my back or from the side, when I have already entered into fight with someone else).

In this situation, I would like to at least (!) be allowed to have a CL-40 with infinite ammunition (I mean, so that it does not require reloading).
Someone will say in this case - “but then every third player, or even every second one, will run with them!” But then look at what began to happen to throwing knives after the buffs.
And then - even if the CL-40 is made the way I described it above - it will still be no less dangerous for the player than for the enemy, and throwing knives forgive any (!) shortcomings in the attack. If you miss using throwing knives, you always have the opportunity to continue spamming the enemy, if you accidentally hit a wall / floor nearby, then you will receive exactly 0 damage, and the enemy may not even notice it, since he may be distracted sounds of battle and other sounds. A grenade launcher does not always forgive such mistakes.

By the way, how did someone here defend throwing knives, saying about them that “they are used - not because they are OP, but because they are fun to use.” Well, I can say the same about the grenade launcher if its cooldown is removed :D .

[the_SLVRFOX]

I don't get why people think throwing knives have OP DPS. Of all ranged weapons in the game, the throwing knife has one of the lowest DPS and highest TTK in the game. On paper, only the bow and sniper rifle have lower DPS. But they actually perform better, because most players run around with the bow pre-drawn and follow up immediately with a regular shot, and the sniper rifle has the best crit multiplier for ranged weapons. On the other hand, throwing knives have a wind up animation, travel slower, and are affected by gravity. And almost nobody uses the throwing knives' secondary attack, even though it does way more damage, because the wind up is so long.

Also, I don't know why throwing knives are being compared to the CL-40 in regards to self-damage. Throwing knives are for the most part a single target weapon, even though they register as 2 separate projectiles. Whereas the CL-40 is an AOE weapon meant to damage multiple targets.