KS-23 is actually nerfed not buffed

[O-TheGeneral/twitch.tv]

Pre patch you just had to land a shot and then charge and slam to get the kill against medium, and two shots against heavy.
The weapon felt strong when you landed your shots.
Now it feels more like its shooting paper planes.

The increase in rate of fire and accuracy buff with 100 damage instead of lower rate of fire with 120 damage feels way worse.

I have some number examples pre patch that made this weapon solid if you managed to land your shots compared to post patch.

130 dmg = (charge n slam)
Weapon dmg pre patch = 120 post patch = 100

Against medium pre patch:
120+130 = 250 KILL

Post patch:

100+130= 230 NO KILL

Against heavy pre patch:

120*3 = 360 KILL

120+120+130 = 370 KILL

120*2 + 140(rpg) = 380 KILL

Post patch

100*3 = 300 NO KILL

100*3 + 130 = 430 KILL

100*2 + 140(rpg) = 340 NO KILL

This is straight numbers from a full hp enemy.
The "execute" aspect of the weapon has reduced aswell combined with overall gameplay when you are in a big clashing area against more teams i usually leave the enemies with around 10hp, before i blew them up.

The only thing thats not affected and consider a buff is against light refered to the rate of fire IF, you manage to land your shots equals to the RoF.


The projectile buff doesent matter, honestly, i had better tracking when it was slower.

The accuracy buff is a nerf in some aspects aswell, i tell you why.

When you jump and shoot you will not land a shot at all post patch because the increase in bloom. That, they didnt write down in the patch notes ;) And, thats what i did in cqc to have some success with this weapon.

So my question is EMBARK, Do you play your own game??


Regard
O-TheGeneral

[H4voK-]

The truth is that this is absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. It's by far the worst weapon i've ever used in any game ever.

Fire rate too slow
Reload speed too slow
Bullet to Target speed too slow
Inaccurate (likely due to the speed of bullet to target being too slow)
Can't compete against ANY other weapon
Needs way too much support from team mates to be viable in any way

With how slow this weapon is and how inaccurate it is, it should be much much stronger. It should be blowing heads off at close range, lights should be 1 shot in the body, mediums 1 shot in the head, heavies should be dead with any kind of 3 shots, 2 if they are head shots.

I don't main heavy but for how this gun acts and feels, that is how it should be behaving damage wise.

The gun doesn't know what it wants to be and it is frustrating. WIth the amount of speed lights have they shouldn't be surviving even 1 shot with this weapon, it should be a HARD light counter that makes anyone using light even consider going near a heavy head on.

Mediums shouldn't be able to out heal the damage output of this weapon in any way which they can.

Bottom line is it's just way too slow and doesn't do enough damage if it's going to behave the way it does. Missing shots from 1 foot away is laughable.

[O-TheGeneral/twitch.tv]

While i have to agree with you H4vok i have to say that it had some potential before, now it got none.

[Dhomochevsky]

Originally posted by H4voK-:

The truth is that this is absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. It's by far the worst weapon i've ever used in any game ever.

Fire rate too slow
Reload speed too slow
Bullet to Target speed too slow
Inaccurate (likely due to the speed of bullet to target being too slow)
Can't compete against ANY other weapon
Needs way too much support from team mates to be viable in any way

With how slow this weapon is and how inaccurate it is, it should be much much stronger. It should be blowing heads off at close range, lights should be 1 shot in the body, mediums 1 shot in the head, heavies should be dead with any kind of 3 shots, 2 if they are head shots.

I don't main heavy but for how this gun acts and feels, that is how it should be behaving damage wise.

The gun doesn't know what it wants to be and it is frustrating. WIth the amount of speed lights have they shouldn't be surviving even 1 shot with this weapon, it should be a HARD light counter that makes anyone using light even consider going near a heavy head on.

Mediums shouldn't be able to out heal the damage output of this weapon in any way which they can.

Bottom line is it's just way too slow and doesn't do enough damage if it's going to behave the way it does. Missing shots from 1 foot away is laughable.

yeah, bru, devs really hate heavys

[Ghazghkull]

Its a shame... i really love weapons that require some skill at range with leading but the damage is just too low with slow reload time on top. I can kill 2 heavies without reloading the lewis gun or m60 XD